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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:07, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

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Barr Terrace, Mueller Tower

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Mueller Tower
Mueller Tower
Barr Terrace
Barr Terrace
  • ... that both Mueller and Barr can be found in Lincoln, Nebraska? "Ralph Mueller: Donor". UNL Historic Buildings. Retrieved May 22, 2019.
    Penelope Chatfield (August 1979). "National Register of Historic Places Inventory-Nomination: Nineteenth Century Terrace Houses Thematic Resources" (PDF). National Park Service.

Created by Zigzig20s (talk) and Doncram (talk). Nominated by Zigzig20s (talk) at 20:04, 26 May 2019 (UTC).

Mueller Tower
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Since the lead is not in the article, it needs to be cited. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Barr Terrace
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Since the first sentence of the lead is not in the article, it needs to be cited. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

User:Hawkeye7: I've added 84-foot to the body of the text in Mueller Tower. What is not cited in the body of the text that is in the first sentence of the lead of Barr Terrace please?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Also, every single sentence in both articles is cited?Zigzig20s (talk) 21:55, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
The lead is not cited, and that is normal, because the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article; but nowhere else does the article say that Mueller Tower is a historic 84-foot carillon tower on the campus of the University of Nebraska–Lincoln in Lincoln, Nebraska. (Or, for that matter, that it is named after Ralph S. Mueller.) The same goes for the other article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:05, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
The body does mention that it was built thanks to a donation from Ralph S. Mueller. Do you want me to add that they then named it after him? That is self-evident. That's how it works: you make a donation, they name the building after you...Zigzig20s (talk) 22:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
User:Doncram: Do you understand Hawkeye's concerns and if so, could you please do some rephrasing, as this is a co-creation? I don't understand what he is saying. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
What I am saying is that you have a hook that says that they are in Lincoln, Nebraska, but that fact is not cited in the article; it is only stated on the lead, without a citation. I have addressed this by adding the required reference to the sentence in the lead. (It would be better in the article.) (In the Barr Terrace article, the street address appears in the infobox, but again, not in the article.) Hawkeye7 (discuss)
Thank you and happy editing!Zigzig20s (talk) 23:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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