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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Orlady (talk) 05:18, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Barkip

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Created/expanded by Rosser1954 (talk), Dr. Blofeld (talk), Rosiestep (talk). Nominated by Dr. Blofeld (talk) at 12:30, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Reviewed: Mariánská Týnice

  • Basically an excellent new article of ample length, haven't seen any obvious problems of plagiarism. A few minor issues:
    Why "known locally as The Den"?, as that's the name that appears on the O.S. maps and indeed I've found it difficult to find good confirmation online that the same place is called Barkip. Little Barkip is shown on the 1:25,000 O.S. map about 1km south eat of The Den.
    History para 2 cites ref. 6 twice, once per paragraph is enough. The transition to fossils then illicit drinking is a bit odd, the social part could fit better in the second paragraph.
    Most of the Geography lacks a citation, isn't the Ayrshire Biodiversity Action Plan available as a reference?
    Similarly, the first paragraph of Landmarks is a bit short of citations. The paragraph on the Barkip Biogas power plant is a bit vague about the location, this relates it to High Swindridgemuir farm which shows on the O.S. map about 1km south of The Den, with a likely site a little further southwest. The source cited says "Barkip Biogas plant is rapidly nearing completion" but the paragraph is written as though the plant is in operation: it was apparently due to open in June 2011,[1] but it would be nice to have confirmation of the opening. The cited source does confirm that as of 18 February 2011 "the plant will be the largest Anaerobic Digestion plant in the UK", but for some reason the June source said "The Barkip plant will be the largest of its kind in Scotland", though it was also "described by its developers" as the “first of its kind in the UK”. Worth clarifying as the source for the hook.
    These are minor points, and os far as I can tell the article is ready to go. . . dave souza, talk 18:41, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Dave, but Rosser1954 was the one who added that, ask him!♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:46, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Oops, thought you'd nominated it, will do. . . dave souza, talk 18:57, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I have added some details of where 'The Den' came from. My ref to the largest Biogas Plant seems clear enough from the source I used. The Barkip 18th century useage is good enough for me. Rosser Gruffydd 21:35, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Oops, the reference you've added is to a dictionary which as far as I can see is unlikely to refer to Barkip, so your addition is WP:SYNthesis: I suggest that you undo that revision. Sorry if I wasn't clear above, judging by the maps the hamlet is officially called The Den. Other sources may well call it Barkip, and it's entirely possible that you have a printed source making the connection: if so, citing it for that connection would be useful. Unless the source says "locally known as", my suggestion would be to change that to "also known as".
Regarding your source for the biogas plant, it doesn't actually show that the plant has come into operation. Has it? Are there any others being built in the UK? As for the other points, WP:V applies and you may get asked for citations. . . dave souza, talk 22:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Came into operation in March 2011 it seems. It has been overtaken as the largest AD plant. I will ask the locals about The Den name etc for my own interest as it won't me in print! Interesting that such a small has resulted in so many additions. Sorry to lose you a DYK Dr Blofeld. Rosser Gruffydd 11:13, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
All is not lost! Sorry to hear it's been overtaken, a search shows others got caught out by the rapid pace of developments. However, this source which you've added still supports the claim that it completed in June 2011 as the largest in Scotland. How about:
The source is already in the article, all you need to do is add a line about it being the largest in Scotland and when it was completed. You can always put in a quote that the Scottish Government Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and the Environment Richard Lochhead announced in May 2010 that "The Barkip plant will be the largest of its kind in Scotland", and note the completion in June 2011. Maybe too much blue link, he's certainly got a long title! . . dave souza, talk 12:40, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I have added the short option :-) Rosser Gruffydd 17:50, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Ok, assuming you're reasonably happy with the revised wording, I've modified the hook. Looks good to go. . dave souza, talk 18:26, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Fine by me. I have come across several new references to the Barkip name - given time I may add them. Rosser Gruffydd 22:55, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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