Template:Did you know nominations/Bahra 1

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:58, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Promoted to Prep 4 by Cwmhiraeth

Bahra 1

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... that Bahra 1 in Kuwait is the oldest permanent settlement south of Mesopotamia? Source: "Science, vol. 335, Issue 6070, p. 790, DOI: 10.1126/science.335.6070.790" [1]

Created by Aszu23 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 2 March 2020 (UTC).

New, long and neutral enough. I'd add Kuwait to the hook. But I can't see the hook fact in the article, though it does check out from the linked ref. Please add. Johnbod (talk) 15:56, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

As far as I can tell the relevant quote is ...which would make it the oldest cult building not only in Kuwait but in the whole Persian Gulf region; however, this appears to be referring only to a specific complex and not the settlement as a whole. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 23:05, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

It's very clearly stated in the linked source - it just needs adding to the article. Johnbod (talk) 00:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

The nominator hasn't edited since the day of the nomination, so I've left them a message. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:18, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

I added information and a source from the hook, thank you! Aszu23 (talk) 23:11, 18 March 2020 (UTC)

Resuming. Hook & source now ok, but Earwig, which I hadn't done before, now picks up:

Article: "Objects found inside the settlement attest to the strong ties with southern Mesopotamia. Contacts with Ubaid centers in Mesopotamia are evidenced mainly by a large number of imported pottery, both richly-decorated luxury vessels and undecorated storage vessels. Small objects of fired clay, possibly personal adornments, are also typical of the Ubaid culture. However, Bahra 1 also yielded objects typical of the so-called Arabian Neolithic: pottery (so-called Coarse Red Ware)"

[pcma.uw.edu.pl/en/2019/04/21/bahra-1-2 Source]:"...but at the same time to have had strong relations with southern Mesopotamia. Contacts with Ubaid centers in Mesopotamia are evidenced by a large number of imported pottery, both richly-decorated luxury vessels /6, 7, 8/ and undecorated storage vessels. Small objects of fired clay /11/ – possibly personal adornments /12/ – are also typical of the Ubaid culture. However, also found were objects characteristic of the so-called Arabian Neolithic: pottery (so-called Coarse Red Ware ..."

That's the only problemmatic bit, but it's too much. Notifying nominator. And "in Kuwait" still needs adding imo. Johnbod (talk) 18:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

I corrected and added new sources, sorry for the delay Aszu23 (talk) 18:35, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Ok, sorted, GTG. Johnbod (talk) 14:19, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the referencing is a bit of a mess. The citations are all repeated twice, in the notes and the bibliography, but there's no connection between them as there would be with Harvard footnotes. Could you consider using Help:Sfn? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:19, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Yuk! Yoninah, please don't push a specific form of referencing, especially that one! They aren't all repeated, just most. Few of my articles' references connect in this way, & it's certainly not a DYK requirement. Johnbod (talk) 20:57, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Somehow I knew you would say that. All right, good luck to the reader. Yoninah (talk) 01:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)