Template:Did you know nominations/Back in the High Life

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:31, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Back in the High Life, Unique Recording Studios, John Robinson (drummer)

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JR in 2017

~~... that the opening drum pattern of the Steve Winwood album Back in the High Life was performed by John "JR" Robinson (pictured) at Unique Recording Studios in New York?~~ Several sources including Billboard 2005, Modern Drummer 1987, and Modern Drummer 2017.
ALT1: ~~... that John "JR" Robinson (pictured) kicked off the Steve Winwood album Back in the High Life with a drum solo he played at Unique Recording Studios in New York?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nyma Tang, Template:Did you know nominations/MS Europic Ferry, and Template:Did you know nominations/James P.M. Ntozi.
Comment: Both articles have been expanded more than 5x in the past few days. The studio article went from about 130 words in this revision on July 6 to around 1,200 words in this revision on July 10. The album article went from 323 words to 4,100 words. Isento was involved in the recent expansion of the album article but not the studio article. Binksternet (talk) 17:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

5x expanded by Binksternet (talk) and Isento (talk). Nominated by Binksternet (talk) at 17:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC).

- I have added John Robinson (drummer) to the nomination because I just expanded that biography more than 5x. I removed the old ALT1 hook because it did not mention John Robinson. Binksternet (talk) 07:26, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- I also added an image from 2017, taken by Suzanne Teresa who sent an OTRS email confirming free usage. Binksternet (talk) 06:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

Here is a review of all 3 articles:
Back in the High Life: 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done.
Unique Recording Studios: 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Images are freely licensed. QPQ done.
John Robinson (drummer): 5x expansion verified. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Images are freely licensed. ~~I have added 2 "citation needed" tags to this article as these facts are pertinent to the DYK nomination.~~ QPQ done.
I think the phrasing of ALT1 works best, but I would like to know why you're not adding that he brought in his own drum kit? ALT1 hook ref verified and cited inline.
Regarding the image, the crop looks very strange, like he's wearing some kind of headgear. I suggest using either the full image or this other, brighter image.

JR in 2017

JR in 2011

Yoninah (talk) 14:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, Yoninah. I did not say anything about Robinson bringing his own drums because I did not think I could do it wihin the hook word count and without sounding like it was too much detail. Choosing a photo: The more brightly lit photo is still in process with OTRS; photographer Tim Shahady sent his approval by email but the OTRS volunteer replied with a followup question, which means the photo is not quite ready for DYK. I thought the "headgear" cropped version was fun and unusual but I'm perfectly fine with using the full photo instead, the one by photographer Suzanne Teresa who sent her OTRS approval and donated a whopping 35.7 megabyte image. Regarding the citation needed tags and references, I have tacked on the proper references to support the individual sentences, bringing another few refs over from the album article which supply more detail. I hope that covers all the concerns. Binksternet (talk) 16:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

...And now the Tim Shahady OTRS is approved and the 2011 (mislabeled 2010) photo is now in the public domain. Binksternet (talk) 18:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Yay! I think the brighter image is best, but will leave it up to the promoter. All hooks and images approved. As this is a multiple nom, you can go over 200 characters, but remarkably, you have gone under that limit. I personally think this would add to the hook, explaining what he was doing at the studio:
ALT2: ... that John "JR" Robinson (pictured) kicked off the Steve Winwood album Back in the High Life with a drum solo he played on his own drum kit at Unique Recording Studios in New York?
Or, if he's really that famous:
ALT2a: ~~... that John "JR" Robinson (pictured) brought his own drum kit to Unique Recording Studios in New York to do a drum solo for the Steve Winwood album Back in the High Life?~~ Yoninah (talk) 18:29, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

ALT2 is great! ALT2a doesn't work as well because it seems like Robinson was only hired for a single solo. In fact, he was hired to fix several songs and he ended up playing drums on six songs out of eight. Binksternet (talk) 19:08, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. ALT2 good to go. Please run this in the image slot. Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 28 July 2020 (UTC)