Template:Did you know nominations/Avana Ivan

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The result was: promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Avana Ivan

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• ... that Avana Ivan was an adaptation of the 1951 American film A Place in the Sun, with the original story being inspired from the novel An American Tragedy written by Theodore Dreiser.

Created/expanded by Vensatry (talk). Self nom at 11:48, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Hook review

Format	Citation	Neutrality	Interest
A bit too long. Gamaliel (talk)	The source says the inspiration was the film adaptation A Place In The Sun, while the article says in varying places the inspiration was the book or the murder case or both. Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Awkwardly phrased. Gamaliel (talk)

Article review

Length	Newness	Adequate citations	Formatted citations	Reliable sources	Neutrality	Plagiarism
Far too short at 1078 characters. Article reads more like a stub. Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)	Gamaliel (talk)

• Although the source says that the film was based on the Hollywood film (A Place in the Sun), it's also clearly given that the story of the film was inspired from the Gillette Murder case and the novel. --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 04:06, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• Regarding the article length, this tool says that there are totally 1658 characters excluding the infobox, references and categories. --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 04:10, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• I have also modified the hook. Is it okay now? --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 04:20, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• Information in lists is not counted. My count shows 1270 chars; still too short. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:43, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• Expanded the article. --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 16:52, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• Score is uncited. As for the hook, how about ALT1: ... that the Tamil film Avana Ivan is an adaptation of the 1951 American film A Place in the Sun? Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:26, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

• I have cited that now. It's clearly given that the original story was inspired from the novel in the source itself. What else do you expect? --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 02:20, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

• I'm more worried about hook length. Crisco 1492 (talk) 03:45, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

• If it's too lengthy, I would go with ALT1. --Commander _{(Ping Me)} 09:20, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

• ALT1 only. Tick based on previous review. Crisco 1492 (talk) 12:54, 25 September 2011 (UTC)