Template:Did you know nominations/Aung Ko (politician)
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The result was: rejected by Allen3 talk 13:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Insufficient progress toward resolving outstanding issues
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Aung Ko (politician)
[edit]- ... that Aung Ko, the new Minister of Religious Affairs and Culture in Myanmar, was previously on an EU sanctions list?
- ALT1:... that Aung Ko, the new Minister of Religious Affairs and Culture in Myanmar, is one of only two cabinet members from the former ruling USDP party?
- ALT2:... that Aung Ko, the new Minister of Religious Affairs and Culture in Myanmar, proposed removing jail sentences for unauthorised protests?
- Comment: Fewer than 5 DYK so no reviewing required
Created by AndrewRT (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 25 March 2016 (UTC).
None of the hooks are formatted properly: there must be a bold link in it that goes to the article being nominated, and all hooks must end in a question mark. I notice further that the article has some quotes that are not cited (all of them must be, by the end of the sentence where the quote ends), and the second paragraph of the Member of parliament section needs to be cited. More important, there's a quote, "rule of law", that should be started much earlier in the sentence, since article and source are identical starting at "to create". (Alternatively, the sentence could be carefully paraphrased; as it stands now, it needs to be fixed one way or the other before this can be approved again.) BlueMoonset (talk) 06:59, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- You're right, that will have to be corrected, sorry that I didn't notice before approving (this was my first DYK review). User2534 (talk) 13:52, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- Hook reformatted. All quotes are cited - in some cases there are two sentences that are from the same source so I have cited it at the end of the second sentence rather than doing this twice. I've had a read of WP:IC and this seems to be entirely fine. I've revised the quote as requested. AndrewRT(Talk) 20:50, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- AndrewRT, WP:IC is an essay; WP:V is a policy and takes precedence—the second paragraph of its intro discusses citing quotations. I read it to mean that for the sentence with the quotes (Member of parliament, paragraph 3, sentence with "wipe out" and another quote), if both are from the same source, then that one source can be cited at the end of the the sentence when the quotes occur. It cannot, however, wait until the end of the following sentence. Also, I don't see that the Member of parliament second paragraph is cited at all yet, and per DYK rules it must be. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:48, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
- This article is fully compliant with WP:V. Nowhere in WP:V does it say that every sentence must have an inline citation immediately after it. WP:IC explicitly says that citations at the end of the paragraph are acceptable and there is no guideline or policy which contradicts this. I completely disagree that you should cite at the end of the first sentence - it reads far better if the citation is at the end of the paragraph. Every fact in the article is cited. Some of the citations are at the end of the sentence, some are at the end of the paragraph. If you don't want to engage, please step aside and let someone else assess the nomination. AndrewRT(Talk) 21:41, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'm happy to engage, but it turns out that while the "wipe out" phrase is there in the cited source (cited one sentence later than I think it ought—there's no good reason not to have a citation in both places), the other quote, "held back democracy", does not appear anywhere in that source. The closest match is in the headline, which unlike "wipe out", isn't something that Aung Ko actually said. Further, the source doesn't support the next sentence's "He drafted a law to allow for the prosecution of corrupt judges"; it said that the committee was drafting it, which doesn't even mean that the draft was ever completed, much less that he was one of the drafters; a later source might establish whether it was submitted, and if so, whether it passed, but this one is talking about future plans, which are notorious for changing. Regarding the still-unsourced second paragraph, WP:DYKSG#D2 gives the rule of thumb as at least one source citation per paragraph; DYK has higher standards because the article is being featured on the main page. Please add a citation to that paragraph (on his 2010 election to the Myanmar House). BlueMoonset (talk) 00:42, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
There has been no response in over three weeks, and AndrewRT's talk page was pinged on April 18. Under the circumstances, this nomination has been marked for closure. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:29, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
