Template:Did you know nominations/Augmented-fourths tuning

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The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:46, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Augmented-fourths tuning

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• ... that, while the standard guitar-tuning E-A-D-G-B-E includes one major third amid four perfect fourths (illustrated), the augmented-fourths tuning B-F-B-F-B-F has only tritone intervals?
• Reviewed: Vaccinium oxycoccos Diff showing review

Created/expanded by Kiefer.Wolfowitz (talk). Self nom at 22:31, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

• Alt2
• ... that regular guitar-tunings—such as major-thirds, all-fourths (illustrated), augmented-fourths, and all-fifth tunings—simplify improvisation for advanced guitarists and learning for beginners?

Kiefer.Wolfowitz 11:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

• The length and date of the article are fine. The hook checks out in terms of length and citation.

Proposal of third alternative, not suitable for 4th of July
Based on this citation, a snappier third alternative hook could be created along the lines of "it's the only one that's the same when inverted".

The first hook should be copyedited to

...that while the standard guitar-tuning has one major third amid four perfect fourths (illustrated) for its open-string intervals,

...and the second should be copyedited to

...simplify improvisation for advanced guitarists and learning for beginners?

We're good to go following those amendments. WilliamH (talk) 01:13, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi William (and other readers)!

I implemented both of your copy-editing suggestions, so that the prose seems like native English. :)

However, I retained the opening comma before "while", which balances the closing comma after "intervals". (Americans love commas almost as much as prepositional verbs.)

Discussion of third alternative

The third alternative would be snappier and is interesting, I agree. However, the hook would have to also note the class of trivial tunings, e.g. "C-C-C-C-C-C", the better to exemplify the definition of "pedant"—a man who strives to speak truly—formulated by Bertrand Russell. I should try first to explain "tuning inversion" in the article; Sethares does so in an earlier chapter, I believe. I shall try to do so asap.

Thanks again for the excellent suggestions. Please state your preferences for the hook-graphic combination. Since I wish to attract readers to the article, I prefer a graphic or sound file to illustrate the article. Thanks again for your help! Cheers, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 09:43, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

Implementation of third alternative
Alt3 ... that, among non-trivial guitar-tunings, only augmented-fourths tunings such as B-F-B-F-B-F are the same in their right-handed and left-handed forms. Per a suggestion of the reviewer, I have expanded the article so that this is better explained. It is now adequately documented with in-line citations with page references. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 12:37, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

• It makes poetic sense to discuss perfect fourths or augmented-fourths on the 4th of July. Cheers, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 17:36, 1 July 2012 (UTC)