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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

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Aram Yerganian

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Created by Proudbolsahye (talk). Self nominated at 07:20, 26 May 2013 (UTC).

  • The article is new and long enough. I did some copy editing but I think that some more would probably be useful. The article (but not the hook) says that Khoyski was former PM of Azerbaijan when he was murdered. Why is it important to emphasize the position of PM? Is it really relevant for this murder or massacres against Armenians? --Antidiskriminator (talk) 15:19, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thank you for clarification by adding former to the nominated hook. I am concerned that the hook might mislead readers to believe that Azerbaijan or its PM position had something to do with massacres against Armenians.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
  • But he did have something to do with the massacres. He was in charge of them. See:

All neutral sources. Proudbolsahye (talk) 21:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

  • I apologize if I did not understand this event. Please explain if Azerbaijan or its PM position had something to do with massacres against Armenians, or they occurred in the Ottoman Empire?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 22:47, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
  • The nominator explained on my talkpage that I made mistake and misidentified September Days with Armenian genocide. I apologize for this mistake. Still, I think it will be better to clarify in the hook that this was early 20th century event by adding "in 1920". The hook is currently 133 characters so this addition would not make it too long.
  • The claim that Azerbaijan PM had a role in massacres is an exceptional claim which needs to be supported by exceptional sources. As far as I understood from the text of the articles about this event and Khoyski, it was Ottoman and Armenian bashibozuk which was responsible for the events of September Days, not regular forces of Armenia which might be under influence of its government and PM. Out of three sources presented in the article to support the assertion about Khoiski's role in massacres only one (the second citation with the source written by Jacques Derogy) directly supports it. Derogy was not scholar but journalist. The other two sources (both derived from operation nemesis website) are not independent from the subject. The NYT article linked on nemesis website does not mention Khoiski. I think that better sources are necessary to support the assertion that PM of Azerbaijan had a role in massacres. Especially because it is clear from the sources which are currently presented above that massacres were commited by "Turkish askiers and Tatar mobs".--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:03, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Thanks for addition of "alleged". In future I propose you to use ALT hooks instead of correction of the originally nominated hook.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 07:59, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
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