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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 20:15, 28 February 2013 (UTC).
Antara (news agency)
[edit]- ... that the Indonesian state news agency Antara was established before the country's independence?
- Reviewed: Not necessary, not a self nom
- Reviewed: Not necessary, not a self nom
5x expanded by Arsonal (talk). Nominated by Crisco 1492 (talk) at 15:13, 15 February 2013 (UTC).
- Date and size check out. But I'm confused about the nature of the company. The first sentence of the lead says "Antara is an Indonesian news agency organized as a private company under the Ministry of State-owned Enterprises." The last paragraph of the lead says Antara was "reorganized as a state-owned enterprise in 2007." And the hook says it is the "Indonesian state news agency". I'm not sure which it is, and I can't find a citation that makes it clear. A news agency owned by the state is not necessarily a "state news agency" - I guess the BBC would be the former but not the latter. StAnselm (talk) 02:38, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Antara is both a news agency owned by the state and the state news agency. This is further elaborated in the article's body. The nature of its history (how it began as a private agency, was then placed under direct presidential control, and then spun off as a state-owned enterprise) results in its current ambiguous status. The agency cannot separate itself from the state and is dependent on it in order to maintain a monopoly on the distribution of material from foreign agencies. The full designation "Lembaga Kantor Berita Nasional" (LKBN) literally translates to "National News Office Institute". —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 03:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- So, is it still a private company? StAnselm (talk) 05:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- It is private in the sense that it is not a publicly listed company on the Indonesia Stock Exchange (as opposed to owned by a private citizen). It is one of the companies managed by the Ministry of State-owned Enterprises, whereby the Minister acts as if he is the CEO of a holding company. "Perum" (short for Perusahaan Umum) is one of the designations for state-owned entities. See Types of companies#Indonesia and Government-owned corporation#Indonesia. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 07:32, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- So, is it still a private company? StAnselm (talk) 05:57, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Date and size check out. But I'm confused about the nature of the company. The first sentence of the lead says "Antara is an Indonesian news agency organized as a private company under the Ministry of State-owned Enterprises." The last paragraph of the lead says Antara was "reorganized as a state-owned enterprise in 2007." And the hook says it is the "Indonesian state news agency". I'm not sure which it is, and I can't find a citation that makes it clear. A news agency owned by the state is not necessarily a "state news agency" - I guess the BBC would be the former but not the latter. StAnselm (talk) 02:38, 28 February 2013 (UTC)