Template:Did you know nominations/Anjum Singh

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 14:14, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Anjum Singh

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Anjum Singh in 2019

• ... that late Indian artist Anjum Singh's last exhibition, titled I am still here, was an autobiographical depiction of her own body and her struggles with cancer? Source: https://lifestyle.livemint.com//how-to-lounge/art-culture/anjum-singh-1967-2020-a-warrior-with-a-fierce-love-for-life-and-art-111605608416885.html https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blink/watch/agony-and-esctasy-of-anjum-singh/article29918573.ece

5x expanded by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 04:19, 19 November 2020 (UTC).

Interesting short life, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. In the hook, I think we don't have to say "late" when continuing with "last" or perhaps "final". How about ending after the title, not giving away too much? In the article, please combine the two identical refs. I don't think her parents are lead material, better summarize her art there. Consider having a sentence introducing her exhibitions, followed by the ref, and even if you won't do that, don't say "Sources(s)" if only one. Almost there. I have a recent death among the noms, in case you want to review that for a qpq ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:25, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, Thanks so much for the review. Pardon the delay. For some reason, I didnt see this one on the watchlist. I combined the refs as requested. Wanted to retain the 'late' because of the reference to cancer, which the artist unfortunately succumbed to earlier this week. Hope that is alright. The parenthetical source(s) will ensure coverage for singularity as well. But, I just changed it, nevertheless. Happy to do a review of any of your submissions. Please let me know. As always, thanks for all that you do. Hope all's well. Ktin (talk) 04:46, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, also, the article now has an image. If it is alright, I am thinking we add the image to the nomination as well. It is a powerful symbol of a valiant battle against cancer. Ktin (talk) 05:43, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Ktin, thank you for the changes, and especially for the image. I changed the image caption to less repetitious. You did not yet change the lead. Better mention her last exhibition there, instead of her parents, who will be no names general readers will know, and will be mentioned first thing next anyway. Better: mention in the lead a summary of what she meant to the (art) world.

Next: I linked to the very nomination I'd like you to review, no?

Finally: I think this ambiguous "late" - which doesn't necessarily mean that she died - as the entry to a hook is not a good idea. Ideas:

a: ... that Indian artist Anjum Singh's final exhibition, titled I am still here, was an autobiographical depiction of her struggles with cancer?

- but I would not know where to put (pictured)

b: ... that Anjum Singh (pictured) titled her final exhibition, an autobiographical depiction of her struggles with cancer, I am still here?

c: ... that Anjum Singh (pictured) titled her final exhibition, knowing that she would die of cancer, I am still here?

- on the day we remember the dead. I am healthy but missing people, see my talk. Perhaps listen to "Wie der Hirsch schreit" (linked there). I'm not part of it, but friends are singing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, Have added a brief bit about her depictions of her own struggles with cancer in the lede. Have retained the parents because they are noted modern painters and that forms a continuity for the narrative. Thanks so much for reminding me that the nomination was linked. For some reason, I missed it. Regarding ALThooks, I would go with the first one i.e. the one marked a) ... that Indian artist Anjum Singhs final exhibition, titled I am still here, was an autobiographical depiction of her struggles with cancer? (artist pictured). If that is alright, lets go with that one.

ALT1: ... that Indian artist Anjum Singh's final exhibition, titled I am still here, was an autobiographical depiction of her struggles with cancer? (artist pictured)

Ktin (talk) 18:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Almost, but not quite, because it has to end on the question mark, and the (pictured) (always this form) should come right after what is pictured. Would this work:

ALT1a: ... that the final exhibition of Indian artist Anjum Singh (pictured), titled I am still here, was an autobiographical depiction of her struggles with cancer? - Thank you for the review! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:35, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt, looks good. Thanks Gerda. Let's go with ALT1a. Ktin (talk) 18:44, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

The image is licensed, and I hope it will be taken. You don't need refs in the lead for things referenced in the body, DYK? I am not yet happy with the referencing for the exhibitions. If all one sources, have it once, and preferred with a sentence, not just a word. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• Note - The image used is copyrighted to Talwar Gallery as mentioned by the up-loader and would need OTRS permission. - FitIndia ^{Talk Admin on Commons} 19:45, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Ktin: please take care of the image licensing, or remove it from the article, before it is promoted at DYK. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:44, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Yoninah:, all done on that front. The OTRS clerk has to just update the notes. link hereKtin (talk) 18:47, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• Great, thanks! Yoninah (talk) 18:51, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• I have just checked Ticket:2020112210006215 and the ticket is still pending process. Please wait until the ticket is processed. Thank you. - FitIndia ^{Talk Admin on Commons} 20:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Fitindia: Can you clarify what is pending at this point? Everything that has been asked for has been provided. Ktin (talk) 03:00, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

• I have access to OTRS and have seen the ticket as I said above. I cannot disclose any further but all I can say is that the OTRS agent handling the ticket has not released it yet. All that means is that in the present state the image is copyrighted. - FitIndia ^{Talk Admin on Commons} 06:23, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Fitindia:, alright Thanks. The mail from the owner has been sent out for sometime now. Maybe it is just us having to wait for the OTRS agent to get to their queue. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 08:09, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

• The image is fine now and the deletion discussion has been closed. I have had a quick look at the ticket too and it seems fine now. Thank you - FitIndia ^{Talk Admin on Commons} 05:34, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks.@Yoninah:, this DYK is now ready for next steps. Thanks much. Ktin (talk) 03:28, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

• Restoring tick per Gerda Arendt's review. Yoninah (talk) 16:12, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

• Is there a QPQ? The nominator has more than 5 DYK credits. Yoninah (talk) 00:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

• Yoninah, at the time that this DYK was processed, I was at less than 5DYK submissions and hence a QPQ did not apply for me. That continues to remain the case. But, if you'd still want one -- use Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Eleni_Küreman. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 02:05, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

• Thank you. Restoring tick per Gerda Arendt's review. Yoninah (talk) 14:13, 9 December 2020 (UTC)