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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Vanamonde (talk) 06:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Al Zab

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  • ... that the majority-Sunni district of Hawija—including Al Zab—was added to the Kirkuk Governorate by Saddam Hussein to make the area easier to control?
    • ALT1:... that the Islamic State hurriedly and forcibly evacuated the population of Al Zab in July last year but now plays up their charitable works in the town?
    • ALT2:... that Al Zab, at the confluence of the Little Zab and Tigris, has been a staging area for Islamic State inclusions into the Saladin Governorate?
  • Reviewed: Will do Oudh Bequest
  • Comment: There are not a lot of sources on the town w/r/t its geography or history. Its position is WP:VERIFIABLE via the coordinate link in the top right corner. I can verify the location of Sheena just south of the same river junction with several sources, but will post those to a new article on that site in the next day or two. Yes, sources with "Daesh" in their name are biased against the Islamic State but a most of humanity is biased against them and b I believe the specific claims from those sites being used here are not impacted by their operators' stated antipathy.

Created by User:LlywelynII (talk). Nominated by LlywelynII (talk) at 05:06, 12 January 2017 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: epicgenius (talk) 15:11, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

  • @LlywelynII: This nomination has a few things to be resolved before it can go forward. For the geography section, there is a missing source, although per WP:BLUE, you don't need sources for something that you can just see for yourself within the WikiMiniAtlas in the top right corner. The more serious problem is with the lack of QPQ, which is needed before this can proceed. Everything else is fine, although I would prefer ALT1. epicgenius (talk) 15:18, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
  • @LlywelynII: Just checking in to remind you that a QPQ is needed for me to pass this hook. Thank you, epicgenius (talk) 00:57, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
  • This nomination is good to go, and for reasons I mentioned above, I think ALT1 should be promoted unless you think otherwise. @LlywelynII: thank you for doing the QPQ. epicgenius (talk) 19:50, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
  • For an article about a town, this doesn't say anything about the town. Instead, it reads like a news report. More description about the town and its history should be added per WP:DYKSG#D7. Yoninah (talk) 19:00, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Eh... it gives the status, location and coordinates, surrounding geography, district, governorate, and sourcable English history of the town. I'm not saying it isn't a terse article—it absolutely is—but what other details are you expecting? I can't think of anything missing except the population and I shouldn't just make that up. (Even if I found a source for it—which I couldn't but may be available in Arabic at an Iraqi government site—it'd be completely useless: As the article already mentions and sources, ISIS completely evacuated the town and then repopulated it and it remains in an active warzone. They can't hold a valid census and anything from the old ones is obsolete.) — LlywelynII 14:06, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
  • Well, then, I'm afraid I'll have to reject it per WP:DYKSG#D7. Nothing is said about its founding, early history, or original population, and there's a 40-year gap in between the 1st and 2nd paragraphs of the History section. Yoninah (talk) 16:44, 2 April 2017 (UTC)