Template:Did you know nominations/Afşin-Elbistan C power station

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Afşin-Elbistan C power station

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... that more than a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey will be from Afşin-Elbistan C power station? "final environmental impact report". p. 319. Atmosfere Verilecek CO2 Miktarı: ....... = 61.636.279,98 tCO2/yıl" means "Amount of CO2 which will be emitted to the atmosphere: ....... = 61,636,279.98 tCO2/year" - Total ghg emissions for 2018 are cited in greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey. 2019 emissions will be reported in April 2020 and are also expected to be around 500 million tonnes.

ALT1:... that more than a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey would be from the planned Afşin-Elbistan C power station? Final environmental impact report (Report). p. 319. Atmosfere Verilecek CO2 Miktarı: ....... = 61.636.279,98 tCO2/yıl" means "Amount of CO2 which will be emitted to the atmosphere: ....... = 61,636,279.98 tCO2/year""Turkey's greenhouse gas emissions fall for second year in a row". Daily Sabah. Anadolu Agency. 2020-03-31. Turkey's total greenhouse gas emissions in 2018 ..... equivalent to 520.9 million tons of carbon dioxide (CO2). By simple arithmetic 62 megatonnes is more than 10% of 521+62 megatonnes.

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: --evrik ^(talk) 17:02, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Hello @Evrik:. Thanks for checking this. I have added the justification for the plant and a technology section, so is it now unbiased do you think?

Re the hook does the exact same wording need to be in the article? If so I could add an alternative hook or change the article wording which currently reads "According to the Afşin-Elbistan C environmental impact assessment (EIA) over 61 million tonnes of CO2 would be emitted per year: for comparison total annual greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey are about 500 million tonnes, so the power station would add over 10% if operated at the targeted capacity factor."

The citation link was correct when I wrote the article but it seems the ministry have now put an EIA for a different plant at http://eced.csb.gov.tr/ced/jsp/ek1/23019#, presumably by mistake. I mean the text on the left still says "Afşin C" but when you download and open the document it is about a different plant "Soma Kolin". However I understand it is not obligatory for Wikipedia sources to be on the internet and I can email you a copy if you wish.

Chidgk1 (talk) 06:37, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

@Chidgk1: - The standard for the hooks is here, Wikipedia:Did_you_know#The_hook. While the hook doesn't have to be verbatim from the article, in this case, the assertion made in the hook is not in the article, and the sources aren't there to justify it. My best suggestion, add the hook language to the article and source it. --evrik ^(talk) 02:27, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

@Evrik: I have amended the text and hook to make them, while not exactly the same, more similar. Is that OK now? Chidgk1 (talk) 10:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

@Yoninah:, can I get your input? --evrik ^(talk) 03:38, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any inline cite for the ALT1 hook. There is no citation at all in the paragraph under "Greenhouse gas emissions", per Rule D2. Note 2 also needs some kind of cite. I have tweaked the wording in the hook. Yoninah (talk) 14:35, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

The EIA is now back on the government website and I have improved the cites. If anything else is needed please let me know. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:23, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

ALT1a:... that when completed, more than a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey would be from the planned Afşin-Elbistan C power station?

It looks much better, I am proposing anew hook. --evrik ^(talk) 13:13, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes that would be better, but as it is very uncertain at the moment whether construction has actually started how about:

ALT1b:... that if completed, more than a tenth of greenhouse gas emissions by Turkey would be from the planned Afşin-Elbistan C power station? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:11, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT1c:... that if completed, the planned Afşin-Elbistan C power station would emit more than a tenth of Turkey's greenhouse gas emissions? --evrik ^(talk) 17:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT1d:... that if completed, the coal-fired Afşin-Elbistan C power station would emit more than a tenth of Turkey's greenhouse gas emissions?--evrik ^(talk) 17:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

--evrik ^(talk) 17:52, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Good thinking - ALT1d is excellent

ALT1e:... that if completed, the coal-fired power station Afşin-Elbistan C would emit more than a tenth of Turkey's greenhouse gas emissions? Chidgk1 (talk) 05:53, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Approving Alt1E. --evrik ^(talk) 13:39, 19 April 2020 (UTC)