Template:Did you know nominations/Adrian Piper

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The result was: promoted by Allen3 ^talk 21:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Adrian Piper

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... that Adrian Piper is a conceptual artist with a doctorate in philosophy?

Reviewed: Charlotte Murchison

Created by Czar (talk). Self nominated at 22:51, 22 December 2013 (UTC).

New and long enough. Good to go. Javier Espinoza (talk) 01:41, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Not sure if it's just me, but I don't find this especially interesting. Thanks, Mat ty.007 09:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

Have to agree with Matty007 here. Piper is a fascinating artist and her doctorate is probably the least interesting fact about her. This could be a missed opportunity! Hows about a hook that mentions her ethnicity and her claim she was kicked out of the mainstream, for example? Sionk (talk) 00:59, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Oy. I avoided her ethnicity as the subject because Piper's artwork is partly about calling people out on such acts... but here's an

ALT: ... that Adrian Piper is a black, female conceptual artist and philosophy professor who has said that she was kicked out of the art world for her race and gender?

czar ♔ 01:24, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Considering I suggested the substance of the new hook, a fresh pair of eyes may be required to OK it. It looks much better to me! I note that an earlier version of this article was deleted following an AfD discussion, however this new version seems well sourced and much improved. Sionk (talk) 13:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Hook is in article and short enough. Note that the page was previously deleted on WP:TNT grounds, not because consensus held her to fail WP:BIO. The Rifkin citation is unusual and short enough that I wasn't sure what to make of it, but I think we can go with it here: see Piper's own book here, in which she includes it in a relevant bibliography and notes that it's basically a brochure for an exhibition of what she's done. Since she's approving it, we can assume that she said what it claims she said (why would she approve it if it's misquoting or libelling her?), thus making the hook suitable for use. Nyttend (talk) 16:45, 6 January 2014 (UTC)