Template:Did you know nominations/Abdallah al-Battal
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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 20:10, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
Abdallah al-Battal
[edit]- ... that the Umayyad military leader Abdallah al-Battal became immortalized in Arabic and Turkish epic poetry for his exploits against the Byzantines?
Created/expanded by Cplakidas (talk). Self nom at 18:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Reviewed: Caludon Castle
The word immortalized may be not NPOV enough for a hook. And the word poetry is not used in the article. Please fix this, by either rewriting the hook, or adding those words to the text and providing references supporting their use. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:29, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
- Hmmm, OK, how about: "... that the Umayyad military leader Abdallah al-Battal became a popular hero in Arabic and Turkish literature for his exploits against the Byzantines?" Constantine ✍ 05:14, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'll dispute that too (sorry). The referenced claims confirm he appeared in two old romances. But the above claim would make me think he appeared in more than just two works, and is a popular character in modern fiction. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 21:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
- OK, another shot at it: "... that the Umayyad military leader Abdallah al-Battal became a popular hero in medieval Arabic and Turkish tradition for his exploits against the Byzantines?" Constantine ✍ 16:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Do those two romances constitute a tradition? I am afraid the answer would be "no". I'd suggest "... that the Umayyad military leader Abdallah al-Battal know for his exploits against the Byzantines became a hero in two medieval Arabic and Turkish romances ?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 19:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Erm, my turn to say no: please read the article carefully, he is the subject of a considerable legendary cycle. Some elements became part of official history through Bal'ami's retelling of al-Tabari, and he entered Turkish folk legend as well. The Delhemma and the Sayyid Baţţāl Ghāzī are merely the two most extensive and coherent collections of such material. Constantine ✍ 05:55, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- A point. Ok. I
for your last hook. For admin closing ease, it is ALT1 I repeat below.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:07, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
- A point. Ok. I
- Erm, my turn to say no: please read the article carefully, he is the subject of a considerable legendary cycle. Some elements became part of official history through Bal'ami's retelling of al-Tabari, and he entered Turkish folk legend as well. The Delhemma and the Sayyid Baţţāl Ghāzī are merely the two most extensive and coherent collections of such material. Constantine ✍ 05:55, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
