Template:Did you know nominations/Abby Martin
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 13:39, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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Abby Martin
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- ... that Abby Martin (pictured), former journalist for RT America, co-directed 99%: The Occupy Wall Street Collaborative Film?
Improved to Good Article status by Viriditas (talk). Nominated by CookieMonster755 (talk) at 01:09, 13 April 2015 (UTC).
ALT1:
- ... that former RT America journalist Abby Martin (pictured) co-directed 99%: The Occupy Wall Street Collaborative Film, about the Occupy Wall Street movement?
Recently promoted GA. NPOV. No plagiarism detected. She's a former journalist and the hook should be changed accordingly. Nominator is exempt from QPQ. How about mentioning "looks like a model and acts like a punk."?--Skr15081997 (talk) 08:34, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
ALT2:
... that former RT America journalist Abby Martin "looks like a model and acts like a punk."?
Skr15081997 - I created an alternate one according to your suggestions. I feel like this fact is not neutral and has a focus unduly on negative aspects of Abby. What do you think? Cheers. CookieMonster755 (talk) 14:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- I have struck ALT2 in case someone objects to it. Image is appropriately licensed. Does she still works for RT America?--Skr15081997 (talk) 15:41, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
- Skr15081997 - Abby no longer works for RT America. She has her own media website. CookieMonster755 (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
I have added "former" to the original hook. Good to go.--Skr15081997 (talk) 04:39, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you Skr15081997!
CookieMonster755 (talk) 06:06, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Thank you Skr15081997!
- Skr15081997 - Abby no longer works for RT America. She has her own media website. CookieMonster755 (talk) 18:52, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
There's at least one reference that's a bare URL, and must be filled out, since bare URLs are not allowed in DYK submissions. Also, while Breaking the Set ended a couple of months ago, the article does not specifically state nor cite that she has left RT America, and it needs to for this fact to be used in the two remaining hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:16, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
- Done. @BlueMoonset: please review. Viriditas (talk) 23:06, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
New reviewer needed to check that remaining hooks are sufficiently backed up by sources. Viriditas, your edits hadn't quite done the trick, so I added specific wording that she left the network (not just the show) and also used one of the existing sources as an inline citation at the end of the sentence in question. Unfortunately, this means that someone else will have to check to be sure I've done a proper job of it. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's not a hook I would have written, but I think you're reading it in a much different way than I am. As the sources make clear, Abby Martin is a journalist and former host of Breaking the Set on RT America. That clearly makes her a former journalist for RT America, however, if I had written the hook, I would not have said that. I think your original objection, that the article did not explicitly say she had left RT America, misses the point. The sources say she no longer works as a host of Breaking the Set, therefore, she no longer works for RT America. It's pretty clear and unambiguous, however, like I said, it's not my hook and I would not have written it that way. Viriditas (talk) 04:25, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
ALT3:
- ... that journalist Abby Martin (pictured) condemned the Russian military intervention in Ukraine on the RT America network?