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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 22:55, 27 March 2023 (UTC)

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A drive into deep left field by Castellanos

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Moved to mainspace by Bait30 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/A drive into deep left field by Castellanos, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The blockquote might be somewhat long, and leads to Earwig flagging this article, but I've trimmed it a bit and if it's problematic I can trim it even further. I have slightly altered the hook to make it make some more sense. Do note the request to keep this hook for April 1. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:47, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

  • @Bait30 and John M Wolfson: I would absolutely love to keep this hook for April 1. What I would love even more is to stick " – as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, that will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4-0 ballgame – " or some abridged version into the middle of a different April Fools' hook, to really drive home the surreal interjection. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 06:42, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
    • Oooh that's sneaky :)  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 06:59, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
      • oh, theleekycauldron, this idea is hilarious! incidentally, i recently proposed a short hook that, in retrospect, may work better as an april fools' hook, as it may be considered slightly misleading, and also contains a link revealing part of the joke, as is commonly done with april fools' hooks. i tried combining the two hooks, and thought the following two possibilities seemed decent.

        alt0qii: ... that King Bataha Santiago's parents sent him to school—as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, that will be a home run—when he was 44 years old?

        alt0qiii: ... that King Bataha Santiago's parents—as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, that will be a home run—sent him to school when he was 44 years old?

        i ended up using em dashes because i think they make the inner hook look more like an interruption than a parenthetical, but i don't know if others will feel the same way. also, please note that the outer hook is currently in prep area 1.
        pinging nominators Bait30 and Nyanardsan, reviewers Onegreatjoke and John M Wolfson, and promoter Cielquiparle. dying (talk) 04:05, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
        • I'm fine with the hooks, slightly preferring alt0qii. If this particular hook falls through I'm sure another one can be used to serve as the "apology" part. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 04:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
          • I'm ok with it if it means we can run the King Bataha Santiago hook twice – once as a standalone in February, the second time as a mashup on April Fool's Day. (Otherwise it feels disrespectful to the Bataha Santiago article somehow. But I genuinely appreciate the out-of-the-box thinking and attempts at humour.) Cielquiparle (talk) 06:06, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
            • i had figured that we should probably get consent from the nominator of the outer hook, which is why i had pinged Nyan, though at the time, i admittedly hadn't considered that interrupting the hook may be considered disrespectful to the subject of the article, who is a hero in north sulawesi, so thanks for pointing that out, Cielquiparle.
              if consent is an issue, an article i recently wrote has dyk potential, but i hadn't been planning to nominate it for dyk, so i could get that article up to dyk standards and then allow the hook to be used in however manner would be considered best to deliver the joke, including gutting the crux of the hook, or returning the hook back to the batch of serious hooks if we come across another more suitable hook before april fools' day. i won't mind the hook being run only once; i wasn't expecting to nominate it at all. the article is about a metro station, so i am assuming that disrespect is less of an issue. for reference, the hook i am planning to propose looks something like "... that newly opened Moscow Metro station Maryina Roshcha's four escalators are the longest in Moscow?", which should be short enough to work with. dying (talk) 11:39, 12 February 2023 (UTC) [copyedited. dying (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2023 (UTC)]
            • theleekycauldron, Bait30, and John M Wolfson, my hook has been approved. please feel free to do what you think is best with it, or not use it at all.
              i was thinking it would be funny if we could say something like "... that Mayor Sergey Sobyanin is proud of the escalators in Maryina Roshcha, which he thinks are the longest in the Moscow Metro—as there's a drive into deep left field by Castellanos, that will be a home run. And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame.", but i think i used too much synth for this to work. (sobyanin does actually state that the escalators are the longest in the moscow metro, but the source doesn't explicitly mention that he thinks this or is proud of them, even though it is strongly implied.) i thought i might mention this idea in case we eventually come across another hook that can be used in this manner. dying (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
        • In my opinion, the interruption should be at the end of the hook, because most instances of the copypasta end after "And so that will make it a 4–0 ballgame.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 18:04, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
          • @Bait30: yeah, I never really came across the meme format in the wild, so I assumed it'd be in the middle, as that's where it is in the actual apology text. I'll keep that in mind when putting together the final hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 10:56, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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