Template:Did you know nominations/A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush

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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 00:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC).
Note: Actually promoted by Ashwin147 (talk); template substitution didn't occur due to mismatched brackets in partially deleted ALT2 hook (now restored)

A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush

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~~... that in A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush, they finally meet a real explorer?~~

Reviewed: Triunia

5x expanded by Chiswick Chap (talk). Self nominated at 19:48, 4 April 2013 (UTC).

Expansion okay, article and hook interesting, QPQ done, but hook is not referenced. It seems to be from the book, in which case it would be offline. Please insert a reference. - Chandan Guha (talk) 13:17, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing. Ref 19 added; Ref 22 covers it also and is online. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Good to go. Chandan Guha (talk) 22:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

Hook issues noted in WT:DYK#Q5 per Gatoclass: "the hook doesn't appear to be well sourced and doesn't make a lot of sense in the context of the article, at least, not that I can see." It also doesn't make sense just reading it: there is no referent for "they". DYK rules state that hook facts must be referenced by the end of the sentence in which they appear. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:19, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

~~ALT1: ... that in A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush, Newby's grammar suggests "a lammergeier came down from the sky and took off my cock"?~~

This is ref 9 in the article, page 166 in the book. Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:12, 11 April 2013 (UTC)

New reviewer needed to check ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:06, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

The alt hook has the same problem as the original one - it makes very little sense. The alt will either have to be re-expressed or a new hook found, but I must say I am not too keen on double entendres relating to the word "cock". Gatoclass (talk) 08:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

~~ALT2: ... that A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush was Newby's comic masterpiece?~~

This is ref 20 in the article, from this article in The Guardian. Chiswick Chap Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

That looks better, but is still too cryptic IMO and needs more detail. Might I suggest the following:

ALT3: ... ... that Eric Newby's A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush has been described as a "comic masterpiece" and among the "best travel books of all time"? Gatoclass (talk) 12:39, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

That's fine with me, and accurate. Thanks! Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:42, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

I changed "greatest" to "best" per the quote from the article. Someone else will now have to approve the hook though, as we are not supposed to approve our own hooks. Gatoclass (talk) 12:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Calling for a new reviewer to take on the ALT3 hook. Since the book's descriptions are from direct quotes in the article, they have to be quoted in hooks, so I've adjusted ALT3 accordingly. (The "travel books" wikilink has been discarded, since it would now be in the middle of a quote.) I'm striking ALT1 for the reasons Gatoclass gave, and ALT2 because of Gatoclass's issues and because it would need quoting and have little but the quote. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:58, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Everything checks out now, a great book with a good hook, it'll be nice to see it on the main page. Hillbillyholiday ^talk 04:52, 21 April 2013 (UTC)