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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 18:20, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

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2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election

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Created by Kingsif (talk) and Jamez42 (talk). Nominated by Kingsif (talk) at 18:40, 5 January 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment Although I'm sympathetic of nominating the article to a DYK, but I have to contest the statement. This is not the first time that security forces claim that there are explosive devices near the National Assembly (14 May 2019, 16 May 2019), and this usually has happened on days that are politically sensitive or important. More often than not is the National Guard blocking the access or exit to lawmakers and/or journalists, making parliamentary sessions harder or impossible to start, which is exactly what happened yesterday. At best, this is according to government forces.
There are plenty of interesting things that happened on the election day, so I'm sure that there are many alternate hooks that can be included. --Jamez42 (talk) 17:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Jamez42: Do you have any suggestions, but yes, we could use Guaidó climbing over a fence or something. Always interesting to see that. Kingsif (talk) 18:09, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Maybe the fact that the vote could not take place at the Legislative Palace, I think this is the first time that it ever happens, at least since the Congress has been unicameral. --Jamez42 (talk) 18:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Venezuelan National Assembly president Juan Guaidó was blocked from entering the Assembly and tried to climb over a fence in order to vote in the 2020 committee elections?
ALT2: ... that the 2020 Venezuelan National Assembly Delegated Committee election could not take place at the Palacio Federal Legislativo, and another vote was held at a newspaper's headquarters?
Added some alts, any opinions? Kingsif (talk) 18:40, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
@Kingsif: Attaboy, they look good. Green tickY Support --Jamez42 (talk) 18:43, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT1, but there is close paraphrasing in the article:
  • Source: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Article: Parra told reporters 140 lawmakers were present in the session and that his candidacy was approved with 81 votes.
  • Source: Pedro Carreno, told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Article: Pedro Carreño told AFP that the vote took place with 150 deputies present and that Parra received the simple majority of 84 needed to win.
  • Yoninah (talk) 00:31, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Hold on, this article has not even been reviewed. Jamez42, your use of the checkmark icon made the bot think that the review was complete. I'm sending this back to WP:DYKN for a full review, pending the elimination of the close paraphrasing. Yoninah (talk) 00:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
Close paraphrasing resolved. Kingsif (talk) 04:08, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you. Ready for full review. Yoninah (talk) 13:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: By the way, I noticed there was never a proper DYK review (all comments were by the nominators), and this is the first time this is being formally reviewed. epicgenius (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

  • @Epicgenius: I've fixed everything but close paraphrasing, because earwig won't seem to load (again). Kingsif (talk) 01:32, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
  • I was asked to look at paraphrasing issues here - just confirming that issues remain. Compare for example "the squad has been accused by the United Nations of carrying thousands of extrajudicial killings on behalf of Maduro's administration" with "United Nations have accused the FAES of carrying out extrajudicial killings across Venezuela on behalf of Maduro's administration". Nikkimaria (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks Nikki, I've edited that example, and earwig copyvio seems to be running, so I'll scrutinize all of those pages. Kingsif (talk) 15:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Kingsif, have you made any progress with the additional close paraphrasing checks? I don't see any recent edits to phrasing after yours on March 21. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I haven't, I'm afraid - earwig's copyvio tool went down again quickly. Kingsif (talk) 17:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Kingsif, you can try the WMFLabs Dup detector linked to in the box at the top of the page when the editor is open. It allows an article against single source comparison. Given how slow Earwig is these days even to come up, it might even be quicker for those places where a single citation covers a large section. (The dup detector lets you tell it to ignore quoted passages, which is a nice feature.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:14, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset and Epicgenius: I've now run the four most-used sources through the dup detector at a low match count to catch paraphrasing, and read through the Spanish one of the top 5 sources manually. Made some edits (including removing redundancy of refs), should be good now. Kingsif (talk) 16:34, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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