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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:58, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

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2018 Tallahassee shooting

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Created by Jim Michael (talk) and Leaky.Solar (talk). Nominated by Morgan Ginsberg (talk) at 16:11, 5 November 2018 (UTC).

  • Aha, the most recent shooting by an incel. The review is below. This is a hook about the perpetrator, so I shall examine WP:BLPCRIME in this review. Obviously, the perpetrator shot himself dead, and won't be prosecuted. The point of WP:BLPCRIME is to wait for a conviction if someone is accused of a crime (the principle of innocent until proven guilty). However, the perpetrator is dead, and BLP considerations are limited to what the police say. The latest police update I can find is this November 9 update, and it looks like the police are confident that Scott Paul Beierle is the perpetrator here. This may have been obvious before, but the word perpetrator implies some sort of illegal activity, which we have no business WP:CRYSTALBALL-ing if it's not confirmed by the police. The investigation seems to be ongoing, but it's not focused on finding the suspect anymore. wumbolo ^^^ 13:17, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: The only problem is the BLP-sensitive section lacking sources. "complained about sexual rejection from women" seems redundant to "identified with the involuntary celibate community". Suggestion: change "complained" to "complaining". Alternative suggestion: remove "complained about sexual rejection from women" as the hook is very long. I'm also pinging Thylacoop5 and GorillaWarfare, the major contributors to the Incel article, just in case if they have something to add. wumbolo ^^^ 13:17, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm not a fan of centering the perpetrator in attacks like this. The incel communities are known for heroizing attackers such as this (and have already done so with Beierle), we should not encourage them. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
That's why his name is not included. wumbolo ^^^ 08:04, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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