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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Miyagawa (talk) 12:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

1933 Michigan Wolverines football team

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Gerald Ford on the football field in 1933

  • ... that Gerald Ford (pictured) wrote that the campus had "more drunks than ever" as the undefeated 1933 Michigan football team won its second consecutive national championship shortly after beer was legalized?

Created/expanded by Cbl62 (talk). Self nom at 01:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

  • Article was new enough at the time of nomination and long enough to qualify. All article images either are public domain or like File:Stanley Fay.jpg, have fair use rationales. (File:Drinkers Are Warned Again By Coach Yost.jpg is protected from editing the image description. Fun times.) Article is sourced and supported by inline citations. Article reads as neutral enough to me. (Looks like author is taking to FL?) Hook format checks out. (169 with out spaces and (pictured), 199 without pictures. Just at the maximum length.)
  • Wording of DYK seems a bit... problematic. It is TECHNICALLY accurate, but doesn't really appear to capture the spirit of the quoted text. If we're talking about drunkeness, it should be very, very clear.
  • that NYTimes and other sources I do not have access to support the text and are free of plagiarism. Some of the sources are hand written and the article and I spot checked about 5 different sources here. (Article has 92.) I didn't find any problems with them. If there are problems, unlikely to be systematic. Example: here, no problems. --LauraHale (talk) 20:08, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I've commented to ask for an alternative hook. Better worded one should make this good to go.

The article says he made the comment the day after the first game of the season, not just after winning a championship. Let's try another hook:
ALT2 ... that after the 1933 Michigan Wolverines football team won the first game in what was to be an undefeated season, Gerald Ford (pictured) wrote that the University of Michigan had "more drunks than ever"? --Orlady (talk) 02:15, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I think Orlady's hook would work if we insert the word "after" so that it reads .... that after the .... I'm not sure what was misleading about the original hook though. Cbl62 (talk) 02:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
I inserted "after". Thanks for pointing that out! --Orlady (talk) 04:33, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm good with ALT2. --LauraHale (talk) 00:05, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

It looks good to go based on comments and alt2. --LauraHale (talk) 09:52, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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