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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Antony–22 (talk⁄contribs) 01:33, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

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13 Hours (film)

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Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC).

  • New enough, nowhere near long enough. Hook is another X is about Y hook. Not very interesting. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:29, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Are you going to come up with another hook? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:53, 8 May 2015 (UTC)
  • You aren't getting it. Saying that "X is a film about Y" isn't interesting, unless there's a reason why it's remarkable or unusual that someone would make a film about Y. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:07, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
  • This is what you aren't getting Jakec. I've suggested two more hooks, which stated the interested facts. Isn't it interesting that the film is about the 11th anniversary attacks of 9/11 and a US Ambassador was killed? --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 09:24, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Look at it this way: why should I be surprised that there is a film about it. Sure, I "didn't know" that there was a film about it, but it's not in any way remarkable. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 11:16, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • @Jakec: You think, I need a new reviewer here? I'm in DYK more than a year and I've never heard of this type of issue before. No offense, but personally I think you are being very aggressive on my nominations. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:17, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • You're perfectly free to request a new reviewer. Just use {{subst:DYK?again}} or post to WT:DYK. I suspect that nobody has called you out on your DYK hooks before because your earlier hooks were, well, mostly interesting. Or at least in some way remarkable. But consider this: you probably didn't know that Sterry Creek is a tributary of the Lackawanna River. It's new information for you. But would you be interested in a hook that just said ...that Sterry Creek is a tributary of the Lackawanna River? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 16:32, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Now I get it. I shall request Yoninah then, to extract a better hook from the article. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:38, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that it took nearly 4 months to cast the first 8 stars of 13 Hours? Yoninah (talk) 23:32, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry to rain on the parade, but that isn't mentioned in the article. It lists eight cast members who joined between January and May (which is quite possibly more like 3-3.5 months, but whatever). It doesn't say that those were the only eight cast members. For all I know from reading the article, eight people joined the cast in January, but the article only mentioned one. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 09:39, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!: it's really hard to find a hook in this article because at present all it is is a list of casting and filming notes. Do you have any other material to add to it? Please also note that a Google search comes up with another film and Wikipedia page, 13Hrs. Perhaps a disambiguation notice should be placed on both articles. Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I'm searching. --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:27, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT4 ... that the security team of six members would be partially succeeded in defending Americans in 13 Hours?
    @Yoninah: What about ALT4? --Captain Assassin! «T ♦ C ♦ G» 16:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Where is the hook fact in either of the sources provided? Yoninah (talk) 18:29, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I'd just go with the original hook - most films are promoted based on their storyline. The next two are poor variations of it. The fourth isn't that eye raising considering some major films can spend years stuck in development hell and thus casting can take even longer. For the fifth, even if grammatically correct, I'm not sure how the statement "six people defending a nation" is at all that intriguing. However, there have been unsourced cast additions to the article which need to be addressed before this moves on. Fuebaey (talk) 22:27, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
  • This discussion has gone on so long because the original reviewer expressed dissatisfaction with the "X is about Y hook", and I agree. Some additional content has been added in the interim. How about:
  • Full review needed, now that article has been expanded and new hooks have been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:27, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
New long enough and meets core content policies. Both ALT5 and ALT6 are sufficiently interesting to go to the main page. Kudos to Yoninah for coming up with those hooks. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:34, 14 June 2015 (UTC)
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