Talk:Zutt Rebellion
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MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:21, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
Did this event even happen?
[edit]Many of the sources listed are superfluous, and of the three that are actually cited, they are cited erroneously. There is no such academic consensus on a "Zutt" origin for Marsh Arabs, nor is there a substantial genetic link. The article refers to them as "inferior stock". Likewise, a editor of this page uses the name "Doing the Needful", which itself draws on anti-Indian stereotypes. Of course,that is relevant as this article only exists as a way of demeaning a minority within southern Iraq by claiming them to be outsiders from India. This is, of course, echoing Saddam era propaganda. 75.88.207.17 (talk) 18:40, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- I add information proving that Marsh Arab are pure Arab with a scientific citation. But this "DoingTheNeedfull" guy keeps deleting it. He's clearly a troll with racist motivations. Ya'rub98M (talk) 21:35, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
- The event happened, yes. We have chroniclers like Al-Tabari who mentioned what happened after the Zutt were defeated and deported to the Roman border (they were taken as captives to Constantinople). Al-Tabari also transmits the "Taunt of the Zutt" by one of their poets, as they were being deported.
- As for the Marsh Arabs being Zutt? That's probably not true. The only evidence of the Zutt that exist in lower Iraq today is the Abu al-Khaseeb district (named after a Zutt client-general of the Abbasids).
- The modern descendants of the Zutt would be in their homeland, now in Pakistan. Not Iraq. OperativePhase9450 (talk) 21:43, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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