Talk:Zuriaake

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Did you know... that the name of the band Zuriaake is a metaphor for the Chinese poet Qu Yuan, who drowned himself due to his hatred of the government?

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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:41, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Zuriaake

... that the members of the black metal band Zuriaake do not wear corpsepaint on-stage because the Chinese think it more amusing than terrifying?Source: "Nor did corpse paint, given that the Chinese imagine zombies as stiff, hopping cadavers more humorous than terrifying." ([1])
- ALT1:... that in their debut European show, Zuriaake became the first Chinese metal band to play a concert in Northern Europe?Source: "n May 2017, Zuriaake were invited by Finland’s Steelfest Open Air, the largest black metal music festival in northern Europe where the band played its European debut show." ([2])
- ALT2:... that the band's name Zuriaake is a metaphor for the Chinese poet Qu Yuan? Source: "Was den Bandnamen angeht, Zuriaake besteht aus "Zu, Buried, Lake". Eine Metapher für einen berühmten Dichter Qu Yuan, der zur Zeit der streitenden Reiche in China lebte (403 – 221 B.C.) und sich selbst ertrank, voller Hass auf die schlechte Regierung und aus Mitleid zu dem arbeitenden Volk am Fusse der sozialen Leiter." (in German, [3])
- ALT3:... that the members of the band Zuriaake excluding their drummer wear traditional clothing on-stage like Hanfu and Dǒulì? Source: "Each dressed head to toe in black embroidered Hanfu, and black, netted Dou Li bamboo hats (except the drummer, who would have found it impossible to wear and maintain his vicious assault on the drums), they arrive on stage like a temple parade, carrying rough-framed cloth lanterns, and forgoing the smoke machine for a swinging thurible." ([4])

Created by Goroth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Reworded ALT1 Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 18:03, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date most passes (created 12 June, expansion finished by 20 June). Size, neutrality, referencing, copyvio spotcheck, all fine. Main hook should mention the band is Chinese but anyway it fails as I cannot find the "because the Chinese think it more amusing than terrifying" in article's text at all. ALT1 is fine but IMHO boring, ALT2 is more interesting but I'd recommend making it longer, see ALT2a below. IMHO terms corpse paint, Qu Yuan, hanfu and dǒulì should be linked in the hooks (also, hanfu and douli should not be capitalized, they are not proper nouns). ALT3 is ok as well (just de-capitalize the Chinese words). The proposed image IMHO is unclear, particularly as a thumb, File:Zuriaake @ Roadburn Festival 2018-04-22 001.jpg, File:Zuriaake @ Roadburn Festival 2018-04-22 006.jpg or File:Zuriaake @ Roadburn Festival 2018-04-22 003.jpg may work better. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:07, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- ALT2:... that the band's name Zuriaake is a metaphor for the Chinese poet Qu Yuan who drowned himself due to his hate for the government?

Origin

I don't know this band at all. However, I will challenge this article to translate to Japanese wikipedia (I'm a Japanese native speaker).

By the way, the origin of this band is Ji'nan, Shandong Province in Discog but it's Xi'an in this article.

Which is right? --Hatto0467 (talk) 14:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Hatto0467, first of all thank you for your efforts. I checked Discogs as well as Metal Archives and Spirit of Metal. While Spirit of Metal says it is Xi'an, Metal Archives states Ji'nan as well (like Discogs does). New Noise states Ji'nan as well. So, I think Ji'nan is right. --Goroth (talk) 19:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bloodsphere or Deadsphere?

@Goroth:"their third band member Bloodsphere" was written in this article. But "Deadsphere" is written as a band member in their Infobox. Bloodsphere or Deadsphere? --Hatto0467 (talk) 11:38, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's Deadsphere. Thanks. --Goroth (talk) 20:55, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I corrected it in Japanese wikipedia. --Hatto0467 (talk) 07:01, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is the name controversial?

The article states "The name is a metaphor for the Chinese poet Qu Yuan who drowned himself due to his hate for the government.". Criticism of government in China is very controversial, so I'd expect this to be a bigger issue, perhaps even requiring them to change the name, if not be banned outright? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:10, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I do not have any further information on this case as information about the group is rare. There is a printed interview in Convivial Hermit Magazine but I haven't bought that issue yet and I don't know if they talk about the band's name. I may buying it by the end of August. --Goroth (talk) 22:00, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus: I received the copy of Convival Hermit Magazine today and added some info into the article but unfortunately nothing was asked regarding the band's name. --Goroth (talk) 11:57, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Goroth Thanks for trying! _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Identity of lead singer

The identity of the lead singer has been revealed as a professor at Shandong University. Source: https://www.scmp.com/news/people-culture/china-personalities/article/3276178/china-professor-revealed-lead-singer-mysterious-black-metal-band-unique-style 98.123.38.211 (talk) 04:37, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Thanks. --Goroth (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]