Talk:Zizi Lambrino

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How was Zizi Lambrino a "royal mistress"? She was Carol's legal wife. -- Jmabel | Talk 01:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

The Royal family had its own law regulating their properties, the line of succession and also their marriages. So technically because he arrived to be king the marriage was never legal and up until his final abdication he was married only once to Queen Elena. So, q.e.d., Zizi is a mistress!!! :D -Orioane 01:29, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

I realize that the Romanian Supreme Court annulled the marriage—I'm the one that put that in the article—but we do not normally say that a woman whose marriage is annulled is retroactively a "mistress". If that is the basis of this claim, then I am removing the category. -- Jmabel | Talk 08:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Also the legal son between Carol II and Zizi L. is Prince Paul de Romania. I don't know if it officially recognized. Bonaparte  talk & contribs

• That's not the son, that's the grandson. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Paul Lambrino/Hohenzollern

He's not officially recognized. He was a candidate for presidency, but although he stayed almost a decade in Romania, he had no idea about what are the political issues in Romania and he spoke terrible Romanian. Academia Caţavencu and the like made fun of his 'political declarations', like "Sunt un prins repiublichen sute la sute". :-) bogdan 11:47, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

Actually, his rights as heir to Carol II were recognized several times, including once by Romanian courts http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/paulof.htm . User:Dpotop

According to the citation you give, while Romanian courts recongnized the marriage as legitimate, they did not in any way say he has the right to any titles. In other words, they determined it to be a legitimate morganatic marriage. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:45, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Does anyone have a reference on that Romanian court case? I have a date of 1996 from the New York Times. I imagine it made the papers in Romania, and probably elsewhere. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:14, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

References

Dates and descendants still need explicit citation. I'm guessing that the Eilers reference has this, but I don't have a copy and there is no footnote singling it out. - Jmabel | Talk 05:37, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Clarification

[1]: I'm sure this was entirely well-intentioned: it was poorly worded. But the information here is not about Carol, it is about Carol and Zizi's son Mircea (also known as Carol). I will reword to make it clearer. - Jmabel | Talk 17:48, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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