Talk:Zara (Russian singer)

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Zara's ethnicity

Yezidism is a religion not an ethnicty. Please dont change Kurd to Yezidi.--Gomada (talk) 11:51, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very mistaken. As a Yazidi our ethnicity and religion have completely been dependent on blood for by being a Yazidi you do not have to be religious but rather just carry Yazidi blood of both parents(a closed ethnicity) while kurds can marry someone non kurdish Sabyan (talk) 21:38, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Political career?

I removed a claim in Leonid Slutsky (politician) that Zara has a "significant political career" because I'm not sure that she is a politician. I don't see anything indicating a political career, only some "activism" that seems to primarily involve singing to troops, and some charity work. However, I don't know what is meant by her being a "trustee of Vladimir Putin" during the 2018 Russian presidential election. Does this amount to a significant political career? Jack N. Stock (talk) 05:25, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WP:burden

An editor - using tools - has restored tagged uncited material that was deleted, without supplying RS refs as required by wp:burden. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zara_(Russian_singer)&diff=1082727792&oldid=1082727614

I informed him. And asked that he self-revert. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hey_man_im_josh&diff=1082728080&oldid=1081750935

He has not done so. And maintains that his revert was proper. He does not appear inclined to respect wp:burden, so I will ask him again.

I copy here admin User:Rosguill, as he just recently granted the user special rights at wikipedia, and though this perhaps calls into questions the capacity of this user to follow wp policy, as we assume he has the correct intent. --2603:7000:2143:8500:514:437F:7C59:FB23 (talk) 18:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For reference, New page reviewer has absolutely nothing to do with the undo ability that I used Twinkle for. Any user has the capability of undoing an edit. This is simply an edit dispute despite what you may think.

I do plan on posting a sockpuppet investigation later on when I have more time. Your interest in purging Russian articles while misusing and referencing Wikipedia policies is concerning. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:52, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you have restored uncited (also, tagged) text, without supplying RS references, as required by wp:burden. And why you continue to fail to comply with wp:burden, by not (as requested) self-reverting. I am pointing this out to you now for the third or fourth time. WP:burden states: "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution.". Thank you.

My comments as to your being given any special wp rights relates to your capacity to follow wp policy/rules, as I assume you are well-intentioned, but you at the same time are ignoring quite clear wp policy. 2603:7000:2143:8500:514:437F:7C59:FB23 (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I actually did provide references while you were busy unnecessarily pinging an administrator and feeling the need to personally attack me. The content of an article should be deleted when it's unverifiable and likely untrue. Here's a couple notes from your link;

"Unsourced or poorly sourced material that is contentious, especially text that is negative, derogatory, or potentially damaging, should be removed immediately rather than tagged or moved to the talk page."

None of what was in the article falls under that umbrella.

"Whether and how quickly material should be initially removed for not having an inline citation to a reliable source depends on the material and the overall state of the article."

Now please see Wikipedia:Citation needed. You'll find that there are no deadlines and the key point is, "Is the information probably factual?" - if so, then you look for sources instead of blindly deleting everything with a citation needed tag. Please feel free to take it to Dispute resolution requests if you're unsatisfied and so passionate about charity work (which does have Russian sources that I haven't included as citations) being removed. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:35, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I point you back to the material bolded above, from wp policy. This is I believe the fifth time I am doing so. WP:burden states: "The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material, and it is satisfied by providing an inline citation to a reliable source that directly supports the contribution."

You've restored material that was challenged and deleted. That, furthermore, had been tagged in the past for lack of citations. You've not only ignored the rule. You've still failed to delete - or provide a proper RS citation for - some of the tagged/deleted material that you restored.

That is inappropriate. I would be helpful if you were to self-revert.

As to personal attacks, I've made none here. 2603:7000:2143:8500:514:437F:7C59:FB23 (talk) 04:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]