Talk:Zamasu

Japan Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Japan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Japan-related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project, participate in relevant discussions, and see lists of open tasks. Current time in Japan: 18:06, November 11, 2024 (JST, Reiwa 6) (Refresh)JapanWikipedia:WikiProject JapanTemplate:WikiProject JapanJapan-related articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Japan to do list:

Peer review: None
A-class review: None

Featured content candidates –

Articles: None
Pictures: None
Lists: None

Good article nominations: Vinland Saga (TV series), Godzilla Minus One
Add requested images to articles that need them.
Pages for Deletion: Participate in Japan-related deletion discussions.
Improve and expand Japan-related stubs.
Create some requested articles.
Help translate an article from the Japanese Wikipedia into English.
Assess unassessed articles

Anime and manga: Dragon Ball Low‑importance

	Anime and manga portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Anime and manga, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of anime, manga, and related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Anime and mangaWikipedia:WikiProject Anime and mangaTemplate:WikiProject Anime and mangaanime and manga articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Dragon Ball work group.

Fictional characters

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Fictional characters, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of fictional characters on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Fictional charactersWikipedia:WikiProject Fictional charactersTemplate:WikiProject Fictional charactersfictional character articles

Source for James Marsters claim

A lot of people seem to be running with an assessment that the guy voicing Zamas is really James Marsters with no real source to properly verify the claim outside of a single tweet by Funimation announcing that the voice actor is a guy by the name of David Grey. Which fails, as it does not call Marsters out in any official capacity. There needs to some kind of source that properly verifies any involvement Marsters might have with Dragon Ball Super. For all we know, David Grey might be an actual actor who's doing a flawless James Marsters impression for the role. Sarujo (talk) 00:54, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Sarujo: Sean Schemmel confirmed it here. His BTVA page considers it as a confirmation. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 21:09, 23 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This source is not helpful. First, unverified account and the account holder isn't an established source, which is not a preferable choice for citation. Second, the interviewee was Sean Schemmel, a fellow voice actor (and often they don't work together in the studio at the same time due to scheduling), not Christopher Sabat who works as the voice director and has a degree of authority over casting work. If this is such an important piece of information, why didn't any of the anime or manga websites report on this revelation by Schemmel which he dropped in an interview with an unknown content creator? I suspect that because if they are aware of this interview and if they do so, it would undermine their reputation as a reliable source of information. As for BTVA, I invite you to peruse this page on IMDB which talks about how information on BTVA really gets verified with the green tick, and no it's not the actors' agents who provides confirmation of casting roles directly with BTVA: https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/how-to-effectively-use-behind-the-voice-actors-as-a-source-of-information/5f4a7a308815453dba9d41f8

My understanding is that "Sam Majesters" is the credited voice actor for Zamasu in the video games, David Grey in the anime dub. So it appears that BTVA connected these identities to Marsters based on conjecture, but that doesn't mean wikipedia editors should follow suit. In the source I provided, Marsters was asked point black about it by CBR in an interview 2 years ago and he refused to confirm or deny his involvement. The most recent source I have provided, in French, also confirms that neither Marsters nor Sabat have come out and clarify once and for all that David Grey and Sam Majesters are the aliases used by Masters. I think the way I've worded the situation with Zamasu's voice works out the best so far. Any statements which connects both Grey and Majesters to Marsters as a definitive statement of fact, as supposed to keeping a neutral POV by simply reporting on both the confirmation and the speculations at face value according to cited searches, violates Wikipedia's policy on original research, because the sources simply aren't there. Haleth (talk) 16:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor SubZeroSilver: To add to Haleth's statement. As a rule of thumb, anything that comes from Geekdom101 should be taken with a grain of salt - verified or unverified. Sarujo (talk) 15:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

To editor Haleth: To editor Sarujo: Actually, BTVA wouldn't add it until I personally posted the link in the forums, but I can't get a hold of the thread because it was so long ago. User:SubZeroSilver (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

On further thought, let's add the source in, but make it clear that it is Schemmel who made the claim. The English voice actor(s) for the article should stick to whatever is credited in the series or video games, unless Marsters or Sabat finally confirmed the pseudonym business in a reliable source. Haleth (talk) 12:35, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Anime News Network. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:17, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"You can contribute information to this page, but first you must login or register". It's also a wiki. Haleth (talk) 02:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fancruft

The article seems to be mostly composed of fancruft material including description of the character's visual appearance and techniques. There are already images that work alongside their alt to describe the character so there is no need to such descriptions. The techniques section would be more fitting in the wikia/wiki of Dragon Ball.Tintor2 (talk) 16:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't really pay attention to the information under the powers and abilities headings when I restored the redirect, as I was focusing on fleshing out the reception section. The article certainly could use trimming for a paragraph or two, but otherwise it should have enough sources to sustain itself and pass GNG. Haleth (talk) 13:04, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]