Talk:Yusef Khan

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Yusef Khan/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MayhemMario 18:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Right here I go, on the request from the nomiantor GSorby to review this article.

Refs

• Ref No.10 is a dead link so 1) should be tagged, and two can be archived as it is a Holy Soap ref.
• Duplicate ref Kilkelly, Daniel. "More 'EastEnders' chat from Nina Wadia". Digital Spy. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a312016/more-eastenders-chat-from-nina-wadia.html. Retrieved 4 July 2011.

Notes

• The lead is very messy. I think the lead should contain no refs. This lead contains 3 refs. I think the lead should summarize the article up and what the character is about, so delete:

Bhatti has praised the cast for being so welcoming to him. Speaking to Inside Soap, he explained that he is "thrilled" to be a part of the regular EastEnders cast. "They're so welcoming. There's a lot of joking about. I'm having a great time at EastEnders - it's a real privilege to be here," he said.[2] Bhatti was recommended by the actress Nina Wadia, who plays the already extablished character Zainab Masood. In an interview with Digital Spy, Wadia commented: "I'd actually gone up and spoken to Bryan about Ace Bhatti, who plays Yusef, because I thought that he definitely had the quality that Yusef would need - which is a very ambiguous but charming quality!".[3]

• All should be deleted and especially Bhatti was recommended by the actress Nina Wadia, who plays the already extablished character Zainab Masood. can be merged in with the first paragraph- i'll let you work on that.

• I know this is quite obvious but there's no source for Yusef married again and had one child, Afia Khan (Meryl Fernandes) and also moved to the United Kingdom.

• This needs re-wording, Tamwar feels he is probably not good enough for Afia in Yusef's eyes as he is from a poor background, but Yusef says that does not matter and approves of Tamwar as he likes Afia enough to say it to her father's face. Actually looking at the storylines it needs a lot of cancelling down, just look at Ian Beale, 25 years and his storylines have been cancelled down that much, those storylines need a lot of cancelling down!

• I really dont get the article, you've put Bhatti was already known to EastEnders executive producer Bryan Kirkwood when he auditioned for the part, as Kirkwood and Bhatti worked on Coronation Street at the same time. Bhatti was the only actor who auditioned for the part of Yusef.[1] Then further down,Bhatti was already known to EastEnders executive producer Bryan Kirkwood when he auditioned for the part, as Kirkwood and Bhatti worked on Coronation Street at the same time. Bhatti was the only actor to audition for the part.[1] Hm... looks the same! You really need to sort out the lead, sorry to go back on to talk about it.
• In an interview with Inside Soap (needs italicing), Khan admits that he is sympathetic for his character (the article is about Yusef-duhh....), Yusef.
• Bhatti was surprised to hear that Yusef is liked mainly by women, but in an interview with Mirror.co.uk, he admits that he is nothing like Yusef in real life. He owns only one smart suit, prefers jeans and has two children, and he was so poor at drama school, he had to clean toilets just to get by. “Maybe women love the ­character, but if they get to know me they find I’m not smooth, I’m not ­sophisticated and I don’t drive flash cars. I prefer trainers and jeans to smart suits.”[21] Not needed, maybe, ''Bhatti was surprised to hear that Yusef is liked mainly by women, but in an interview with Mirror.co.uk, he admits that he is nothing like Yusef in real life. That's all.
• Im sure, Bhatti has has admitted that he is surprised by his status as a heartthrob. "It's a great ­compliment, but a complete surprise," he told the Sunday Mirror. "Maybe women love the ­character, but if they get to know me they find I'm not smooth, I'm not sophisticated and I don't drive flash cars. I prefer trainers and jeans to smart suits."[19] is near enought the same as Bhatti was surprised to hear that Yusef is liked mainly by women, but in an interview with Mirror.co.uk, he admits that he is nothing like Yusef in real life. He owns only one smart suit, prefers jeans and has two children, and he was so poor at drama school, he had to clean toilets just to get by. “Maybe women love the ­character, but if they get to know me they find I’m not smooth, I’m not ­sophisticated and I don’t drive flash cars. I prefer trainers and jeans to smart suits.”[21]
• I mentioned this earlier, but not in detail, Bhatti has praised the cast for being so welcoming to him. Speaking to Inside Soap, he explained that he is "thrilled" to be a part of the regular EastEnders cast. "They're so welcoming. There's a lot of joking about. I'm having a great time at EastEnders - it's a real privilege to be here," he said.[2] Not needed. Just say if anything, Speaking to Inside Soap, he explained that he is "thrilled" to be a part of the regular EastEnders cast.
• Instead of using the whole quotes for a ref, just summarize it.

Minor Deatils

• "Fans call me Dr Evil." [17] not neeeded, in reception
• Tariq is not linked.
• 'the scenes aired on the 2 June 2011'
• Nina Wadia and Zainab Masood are linked 5 times in this article.
• Linking problems with Digital Spy to (linked 3 times),
• Masood Ahmed and Nitin Ganatra linked 3 times, overlinking!
• There are a lot of DS sources with no publisher info in them.
• 'Mirror.co.uk' chanegd to Daily Mirror?
• Whilst editing it I noticed that for a few sources it is written as |publisher=Digital Spy which is wrong, should be work=Digital Spy, sort it out for a few of them.
• Delete Tamwar Masood form 'Other Relatives' as not related by blood. (i think)
• Caption for image?

Review

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   Prose needs a lot of work, see above.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): (citations to reliable sources): (OR):

   See above.

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): (focused):

   :)

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   :)

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   :)

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   Comments above

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail

For this article I would fail it though if I see you can make the improvements, it would be great. Thats why I put it on hold, but I think you put the article up for GA to premature as you can see all the highlighted things above. Needs work- on hold for 7 days. MayhemMario 18:01, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Um, editors are granted seven days to complete tasks. Though some reviewers will hold the review open for longer. - JuneGloom Talk 18:28, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Sorry! It was a typo! One of many.... MayhemMario 18:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Mario, I don't feel you should be reviewing this considering you made edits to the list entry before it was split off. Therefore parts of this article are attributed to you. –anemoneprojectors– 10:09, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay I've finished with the fixes. What about now? ..George Sorby • Talk • Contribs .. 14:29, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Look, I shouldnt be reviweing this, as i have contributed to this article in the list. I think im going to fail it, then you can nominate it again, so someone outside Wp:EE can review it. I hope that when it is reviewed again it will pass. MayhemMario 14:56, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Yusef Khan/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 21:14, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

1. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct? Y I would say so.

2. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation? Y Improved since last review.

3. It provides references to all sources of information in the section(s) dedicated to the attribution of these sources according to the guide to layout? Y

4. It provides in-line citations from reliable sources for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines? Y Stable

5. It contains no original research? Y

6. It addresses the main aspects of the topic? Y

7. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail? N In my opinion, excessive quotes which go into extreme detail and the section has few links to other articles.

Addressed, I've made a few quotes less detailed, especially the one in the Quote box. GSorby - Talk!

8. It represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each? Y

9. It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute? Y

10. Illustrated, if possible, by images: Y

(a) Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content? Y

(b) Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions? Y

Issue: Could there possible be an image in the Storyline development section?

Pass or fail? Y Pass Thank you for correcting the issues.

Update needed?

As this is at GA, I believe it should take advantage of the billions of sources avaiable.

• The reception section is very poor - there is so much information offering their two pence on Yusef.
• I think it is a mistake to have once said "Bhatti also hinted that Yusef will become more firmly established as a Walford villain over the next few weeks"
• The storyline has progressed but no new development information has been added since it was promoted. There could be a risk of the storyline section over taking the OOU parts in size.RaintheOne ^BAM 01:36, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

If I was here, I'd have worked on it a lot by now... :S –anemoneprojectors– 12:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

I personally am wondering whether a GA re-review is needed. MayhemMario 12:32, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Say whut? I think it just needs updating. :)RaintheOne ^BAM 13:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I will do it tnoight when I get home :-) GSorby – Ping! 13:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks George, though you have got a lot on your dinner plate at the moment, :) MayhemMario 13:57, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay everyone. I've brought this article up to code now and I enjoyed it. Just need to cite the storylines section now. GSorby – Ping! 17:05, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

I might get to read it one day :D –anemoneprojectors– 17:21, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Keep up the good work George, that Reception section could be expanded five fold. ;) Use Tony Tewart's podcast too, he said some great things about Yusef.RaintheOne ^BAM 21:09, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Sources to add

• [1] - Good one.RaintheOne ^BAM 23:11, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
• Placed here by me on behalf of Rain, who put it on the GA review page in error –anemoneprojectors– 14:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
• [2] - Zainab sending Yusef into fire was "stroke of genius"Rain the 1 14:46, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
• [3] - Not much of a game plan.Rain the 1 14:52, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 27 December 2011

the date of death was 26th dec not 25th.

84.93.190.144 (talk) 22:16, 27 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 21:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

The 26 December episode was set on Christmas Day. Please use a bit of common sense. GSorby – Ping! 18:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)replky

Ratings

I saw that some ratings had been added. Remember these are overnights and not official viewing figures, which are to be released by BARB in a few weeks. –anemoneprojectors– 15:55, 29 December 2011 (UTC)