Talk:Yunnan nuthatch

GA Review

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Reviewer: AryKun (talk · contribs) 05:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

• Hey, I'll get to this. AryKun (talk) 05:15, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

Lead

• Bird doesn't need to be linked.

 Done

• "and it occurs in pine forests at altitudes of up to 4,000 m (13,000 ft)" → Unnecessary, mentioned later.

 Done

• 12 cm → Add convert template.

 Done

• Also mention the weight, perhaps?

 Done

• "It has a fine white eyebrow, distinct when the plumage is fresh, and surmounting a pronounced black eye line." → "It has a fine white eyebrow above a black eyestripe, which is distinct when the plumage is fresh."

 Done

• Could the spelling of gray and the order of blue-gray be made consistent?

 Done

• "This blue-grey bird can be up to 12 centimetres (4.7 in) long, has a distinctive white eyebrow, and exhibits a small degree of sexual dimorphism." → Already mentioned, remove.

 Done

• "It is a noisy bird, producing" → "A noisy bird, it produces"

 Done

• Insects doesn't need to be linked.

 Done

• "and it is generally rare but can be locally common." → This is best mentioned next to the info about conservation.

 Done

• Instead of mentioning each county in the lead, perhaps you could just say "In the prefectures of Yunnan, Sichuan, and Guizhou in southwest China."

 Done

Taxonomy and systematics

• The picture of the protologue adds little value, beside sandwiching text, so it should be removed.

Removed

• Link described.

 Done

• You can remove the middle names in Alfred Woodrow Stanley Wingate.

 Done

• Link the rank Captain to the appropriate page.

 Done

• The next sentence doesn't really make sense, considering that subgenera are groupings below genera, so being in Micrositta and Sitta at the same time isn't an issue. Was Micrositta a separate genus at the time? If not, perhaps just remove " although nuthatch species are now generally grouped together under genus Sitta."

Removed

• "According to the International Ornithological Congress and ornithologist Alan P. Peterson," → Unnecessary, no authority seems to recognize any subspecies.

Removed

• " In 2014, Eric Pasquet and colleagues published a phylogeny showing the relationship between Micrositta species, and found the Yunnan nuthatch to be the most basal species of the group." → Remove, mentioned in next paragraph.

Removed

• "The canadensis group of species includes six species, which are also those of what is sometimes treated as the subgenus Sitta(Micrositta), the Yunnan nuthatch, the red-breasted nuthatch (S. canadensis), the Chinese nuthatch (S. villosa), the Corsican nuthatch (S. whiteheadi), the krüper's nuthatch (S. krueperi) and the Algerian nuthatch (S. ledanti)." → "The canadensis group, which is also sometimes called the subgenus Micrositta, contains six species – the Yunnan nuthatch, the red-breasted nuthatch (S. canadensis), the Chinese nuthatch (S. villosa), the Corsican nuthatch (S. whiteheadi), Krüper's nuthatch (S. krueperi) and the Algerian nuthatch (S. ledanti)."

Reworded

• "believe that the Yunnan nuthatch acts as a link" → "thought that the Yunnan nuthatch formed a link"

Replaced

• "at the same time that it seemed rather close to the canadensis group of which it formed a representative close to the ancestral state, than this either in terms of its distribution and its plumage" → "simultaneously that it was very closely related to the canadensis group, of which it was a basal representative in terms of distribution and plumage."

Replaced

• "In 1957, Charles Vaurie proposed bringing the species of the white-tailed nuthatch (S. himalayensis) closer." → What exactly does this mean?

Reworded properly

I still can't figure out what this means, but from the source, I think you mean that Vaurie postulated that the white-tailed nuthatch was the Yunnan nuthatch's closest relative. Also, the link in the ref for that is broken, replace it with this.

Replaced link and reworded a bit. Your wordings makes more sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4455:1A9:E100:187A:6121:3FA3:9FAD (talk) 11:44, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• "species of the group of Sitta canadensis" → "species in the canadensis group"

Replaced

• "cytochrome-b of" → Perhaps remove this, too much detail.

Reworded

• "basic of the species this group" → "basal of the species in this group"

Replaced

Description

• Any other images of the species? One here would be nice.

 Done

• "lower parts" → Be consistent in using either this or underparts, and link here, as this is the first usage.

Replaced into underparts

• I think the measurements are a bit overkill, probably the beak and tarsus measurements can be removed.

Removed

• "It exhibits" → "The species exhibits" We use nouns at the start of a paragraph

Replaced

• "Tail and wing feathers" → "The tail and wing feathers"

Replaced

• "measuring around 12 cm (4.7 in) in length" → "measuring around 12 cm (4.7 in) in length on average" This should also be done for the lead.

Replaced

• The spelling of molt isn't consistent, standardize it to "moult".

Replaced

Distribution and habitat

• "South-West China" → "Southwest China"

Replaced

• You alternate between counties and prefectures here, please mention just the prefectures or all the counties.

Replaced

• "It exists in" → "It inhabits"

Replaced

Relationship with humans

• In relationship with humans → Relationship with humans

Replaced

• "post office" → "postal service", and consider linking to China Post

Replaced

• Cabot Tragopan, Biddulph Podoce, Taiwanese Pirolle → Cabot's tragopan, Biddulph's ground jay, Taiwan blue jay

Replaced

• Add nationality and occupation for Zheng Zuoxin

Added

• The abbreviation for the IUCN is unnecessary, as it isn't used.

Removed

Images

• All the images could use alt text

 Done

• In the caption for the first image, the period should be removed as the caption is a sentence fragment

Removed

• Italicize Pinus yunnanensis

 Done

References

• In ref 2, link Bulletin of the British Ornithologist's Club, and also provide a link to a copy of the article, if possible.

 Done

• The Nuthatches is cited twice, for the same pages. Also, A & C Black could be linked.

 Done

• In ref 7, Ardea can be linked. Also, are you really citing all 68 pages there?

Removed the ref, because the chikadees, tits, nuthatches and treecreepers book supported the claim already.

• Instead of having two Tits, Nuthatches and Treecreepers refs, merge them into one as there are just two pages, 143–144. Also link Princeton University Press. Also, the ISBN for this is for Chickadees, Tits, Nuthatches and Treecreepers, which is listed in the bibliography but not cited. Correct the title and remove the Bibliography section.

Merged and added.

• Link Ibis in ref 10.

 Done

• Link to the study for ref 11?

 Done

• Link Lynx Edicions in ref 13.

 Done

• Link to the study in ref 14.

 Done

• What makes birdtheme.org and delcampe.net reliable sources?

I replaced it into this [1], but if you think it is unreliable. You are free to remove the entire "in culture" subsection, as I couldn't any reliable out there.

(talk) 10:23, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

• Ref 17, link Science Press, and also link to the book on worldcat or similar, along with adding an ISBN.

 Done

• Ref 18 link is broken.

Replaced

• Ref 19, link The Raffles Bulletin of Zoology.

 Done

Good work on this article, that's all I could find, but fixing these, especially the reference errors, is important. Nice work, I've made a couple final edits, and will be passing. AryKun (talk) 06:04, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Many thanks for the c/e! will see you on next one soon. 2001:4455:1A9:E100:8F7:B4E2:14D5:58BA (talk) 06:12, 7 January 2022 (UTC)