Talk:Yuja Wang

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Structure: reads like a long list

This is an admirably detailed and thoroughly cited article, however, it lacks narrative structure. In other words, it reads like a long list, which is tedious (at the age of x, at the age of y, at the age of z; in 20xx, in 20xx, in 20xx and so on). Is there a way to give some shape to the chronology, for example, to help readers understand what is significant, consequential, interesting, etc.? I'm not suggesting deleting anything (if anything, I appreciate how this may serve as a handy reference for online readers). This is especially true for the "Reviews" section, which would be improved if it mapped the critical landscape, providing some indication of how critical consensus - or key debates - have emerged over time. Aolivex (talk) 20:14, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A recent photo (July 2017)

As the only photo in this article dated back from 2012, I added a recent photo of Yuja Wang taken by myself during her concert at Carnegie Hall on July 23, 2017, where she played Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto No. 1 in B-flat minor with the National Youth Orchestra of China conducted by Ludovic Morlot. The resolution of my photo is not optimal, but it's better than nothing, and at least it shows her playing the piano, which is rather relevant to complete an article about a pianist, I think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClassicalMusic33 (talk • contribs) 15:46, 1 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced external link

I’ve just replaced a broken link in the article by a working one, but I’m not sure if I did it the right way.

Also, if there is a way to prevent such "link rot", I’d be happy to hear about it!

The old link was (I know it’s in the history, but just to make things easier): http://www.playbillarts.com/news/article/6110.html --Geke (talk) 23:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You did fine, thank you for that. You could have instead used the Wayback Machine to find an archived copy of the same story (e.g., this), but the new source you found has all the same information, and that's fine. TJRC (talk) 00:57, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Link rot is a problem when only the URL is used without the other information about the reference. As you can see in #External_links_modified and the previous reply, bots try to archive URLs. You did a fine job with replacing the reference but just so you know, do not delete a dead link that you can't repair, just add the template {{dead link}}. cheers, Fettlemap (talk) 05:31, 5 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wang's wardrobe

The article previously included the line "Her clothing choices in performance have also attracted attention", sourced to the Washington Post. An IP editor removed it with the edit summary "Removed mysogynistic language". I recovered it, noting "not misogynistic, this has been widely reported. The reporting itself may be controversial, but that does not negate that it has been widely discussed in printed publications". Doric Loon re-deleted it saying "I agree with the IP user - this is not notable, and I doubt if it has been widely discussed in serious discussions of music. The Daily Mail and its ilk comment on the looks of all women in the public space, but that doesn't mean we should."

This has been very widely reported. I'm not sure where the reference about the "Daily Mail and its ilk" comes from: the cited source, the Washington Post, is in no way similar to the tabloid Daily Mail.

This has been widely covered in as diverse publications as:

These are not tabloids like the Daily Mail, which I agree should not be used as a source for such things.

Any article on Wang should at least mention it (although I don't think it should be in the lede, where it previously was; and we can likely improve the wording). Not only did it get substantial coverage, but it's ignited a debate about the coverage itself. It really shouldn't be ignored. TJRC (talk) 22:35, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi TJRC (talk · contribs) Thanks for bringing to talk. I would say this is a legitimate part of a discussion of this musician if either (1) she actively encouraged us to see her looks as part of her brand (but she didn't - she is just stylish) or (2) the silly misogynous reduction of a woman to her looks has been refuted or critiqued by her herself or by somebody major. But in this latter case it is not OK just to say people talk about her looks - you would have to give the critique. I really don't think that would help this article, but if the material is there, I suppose you could write it up. --Doric Loon (talk) 23:02, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This entire discussion seems to stem from a strange comment by Mark Swed in a review. The comment says more about Mark Swed than about Yuja Wang, so the part of the article starting "Wang has received attention for her eye-catching outfits ..." should be re-worded and moved to Mark Swed's Wikipedia page, if it is worth retaining at all. Sayitclearly (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the current iteration of the Wikipedia article is appropriate. Ms. Wang certainly dresses in a style that one might call "revealing," and there are a number of excellent female pianists who dress similarly. It's a "thing" right now, and I think that matter should be addressed. But whatever the case, Ms. Wang is an excellent pianist who markets her performances well, and it is a delight to listen to her. Joeoffer (talk) 03:19, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]