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"Young Bosnia"

"Young Bosnia" or "Young Bosnians" was a term that became popular after the end of the war in 1918 to refer (in the past) to a collection of organizations and individuals seeking the breakup of Austria-Hungary by violent means in the hopes of creating a Yugoslavia, Greater Serbia, or independent slavic states. There was no "Organization" called "Young Bosnia". If one struck a blow against Austria-Hungary, one was considered a member of "Young Bosnia". This web page should be corrected and moved to a dictionary.

Werchovsky 19:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems confused - if what you say is correct (and I agree it is) then the statement in the latter part of the article that that Young Bosnia members espoused anarchism is absurd. Clearly not *all* persons who espoused a breakup of Austria-Hungary and its replacement were anarchists. I imagine that the share who were was infinitesimal. Bigdaddy1981 23:38, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

hm

I think this article is not the truth. there is no written statement, if there is, it would be in history books. Serbia never said publicly that they stood behind killing of Ferdinand. Mlada Bosna was revolutionary group, Black Hand is anarchist term for groups in Spain. But now I found information about Crna Ruka (Black Hand) in Serbia also, they killed king family (http://sr.wikipedia.org/sr-el/%D0%A6%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BA%D0%B0). But they were not revolutionaries than nationalists.

Even Gavrilo got/bought weapon in Serbia, it doesn't mean that Serbian authorities stand behind attack. If you give me gun and I kill someone, who says that you are organizer of killing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.239.154.3 (talk) 19:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WW1

Hi, Gavrilo was dead before his association with the national freedom movement Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna)was possible, according to the previous page anyways.Any light to shed?Thanx.Nick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kniick2003 (talk • contribs) 22:51, 17 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Young Turks

Looking at Bosnia is impossible without looking at Ottoman history. Is the writer of this historical document telling us that there is no link between the Young Bosnians and the Young Turks? I think that leaving out information is the same as telling lies. It's like all the Greeks telling us that Macedonia is Greece. If that is so, why didn't Philip or Alexander call the country Greece instead of Macedonia. Greece much like Italy was not a unified country nor was it called Greece. Each one of the famous and ancient Greek cities was a city state and at the time, there was no Greece nor a loyalty (national affiliation) with Greece.

With respect with historical documents dating from 1867 to 1917 and from 1917 to 1967, we cannot establish the identity of Bosnians because there was a Royal decree denying the existence of the Bosnian nation that continued all the way up to 1967 when Tito was forced to give the Bosnians a new identity because nobody wanted to declare themselves Serb or Croat how the Austro-Hungarian authorities had planned. To make sure that the Bosnians still don't get a state, Tito gave the Bosnians the name Muslim with a capital m to distinguish the Yugoslav literary form where a small m denoted the muslim religious denomination. Bosniak, the name that Bosnian ancestors carried was returned near the end of Yugoslavia in the 90's.

Somebody being Bosnian did not exist from 1867 to 1971 (first census where Bosniaks declared themselves as Muslims). All information regarding population size, killed during wars, or location is anything but accurate from that time period. It is hard for me to believe what you tell me regarding Bosnians when the official Austro-Hungarian policy and then the policies of the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, & Slovenes, the kingdom of Yugoslavia, the independent state of Croatia, and then the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia was that a Bosniak doesn't exist. The Young Bosnians had the same problems with Austro-Hungary as did the Croatian Viceroy Josip Jelacic did with Hungarian hegemony and it was no surprise that Francis Ferdinand was killed.

nodi —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.175.44.248 (talk) 03:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]