Talk:York Preparatory School

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	Reasoning for assessment: This article has significant problems. It is written in an overly promotional tone, and needs to be re-written in a neutral point of view. The article has external links in its text, but it has no footnotes/in-line citations. Please read Wikipedia:Citing sources. There are no indepedent, third-party sources listed in the article. In fact, all of the links appear to link to the school website, and after double-checking the sections Mission, Scholars Program, and Jump Start Program I am tagging this article as a possible copyright violation. Consider looking at articles rated GA and FA for examples of school articles that are well-sourced and written in a neutral point of view. --Jh12 (talk) 06:42, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply] Reassessing as start; copyright concerns have been addressed by User:Moonriddengirl. Consider reviewing Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools/Article guidelines for ideas on sections for expansion, and please remember to cite sources, write in your own words, and add information in a neutral point of view --Jh12 (talk) 05:51, 8 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright concerns

This article infringes on the official site. The opening paragraph, "extracurricular activities" and part of the "mission" section are copied from this page. The "scholars program" section is copied from here. The "jump start program" section is copied from here. As this material has been present in the article since its creation, a "clean" version needs to be written in subspace as directed on the template, unless verification of permission is obtained. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:24, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A clean article has been placed. Contributors are asked to follow our copyright policy and not to paste information from external sources without first providing verification of permission. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updates

I work for Rubenstein Communications and I propose the following updates and additions on behalf of York Prep. To mitigate conflict of interest issues, I ask that an editor review the edits and take them live as they see fit. If no objections are had and no edits are made within five days, I will go ahead and update the entry myself. NinaSpezz (talk) 18:20, 29 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

York Preparatory School, commonly referred to as York Prep, is an independent, private university-preparatory school in the Lincoln Center area of New York City...

As of the 2013-2014 school year, tuition is $40,500 per year for middle school students and $41,200 for high school students.[1]

History

Founded by educators Ronald and Jayme Stewart, York Prep opened its doors in September 1969 to 158 students in grades 6-12 and by 1972 had 212 students.[4] Today, York Prep has a student body of 350, with a faculty and administration of more than 70 educational professionals. The school is family-based, with founder Ronald Stewart serving as headmaster and his wife Jayme Stewart as director of college guidance. Having met and worked at Tripp Lake Camp in Maine, the Stewarts dreamed of establishing a school to help students achieve personal success while upholding academic excellence.[2] Jayme Stewart, who has shared college entry tips with CNN,[5] is also the author of a 1991 book, How to Get into the College of Your Choice: And How to Finance It.[6]

In 2011, the New York Post reported Christopher Durnford, the former Principal, had been fired for an alleged relationship with a former school volleyball player.[7] Years prior, in 2008, New York magazine reported Durnsford had been caught falsely claiming to have been captain of the Canadian cycling team and a competitor in the Barcelona Olympics.[8]

Academics

... York Prep’s Jump Start Program (supplementary cost) helps students with different learning styles and learning disabilities to function successfully in an academically challenging mainstream setting. ...

Sports and activities

York Prep sports include:

Boys' Varsity Soccer				Boys’ Varsity Basketball
Girls' Varsity Soccer				Girls’ Varsity Basketball
Middle School Soccer				Middle School Basketball
Girls’ Varsity Volleyball				Boys’ Junior Varsity Basketball
Girls' Junior Varsity Volleyball				Girls’ Varsity Softball
Boys’ Varsity Volleyball				Indoor Varsity Track & Field
Girls’ Middle School Volleyball				Varsity Track & Field
Co-ed Varsity Golf				Middle School Track & Field
Boys’ Varsity Baseball				Varsity Cross Country
Middle School Baseball				Middle School Cross Country

...

Facilities

The school, which then housed 250 students, made news in 1997 when it expanded in an unusual transaction, trading property with Ramaz School.[15] Ramaz purchased a new building for York Preparatory at 40 West 68th Street and traded that for the existing school at on East 85th Street. [16]

[Cut remainder of unverifiable content in this section. Remove broken links.]

It's a little easier to discuss section by section than in one lump like this. I'm insure, for instance, if "area of New York City..." means that you intend all subsequent content from the lead up to the tuition to remain as is. In any event, I've left it. I did not remove proprietary, although I did link it for those who do not know what it means. I would have no objection to altering it to read "for-profit" or for adding a source (here's one: [3]) to substantiate that, if preferred.

In terms of the history:

Before adding the descriptor "educators" to the founders, I would like to see independent sources that suggest a history in education. The New York Times article I've linked just above suggests that Mr. Stewart was a barrister. It says nothing of Mrs. Stewart's professional history.
That article also indicates that their reason for opening the school was somewhat different than that they "dreamed of establishing a school to help students achieve personal success while upholding academic excellence" - it says, "While many schools have century-old histories that began with educational or religious visionaries, Mr. Stewart, a British barrister who once defended Charles Kray, an infamous London mobster, founded the school with his wife because they wanted to work together and have their summers free to spend at a camp in Maine." A noble goal in its own way, but a very different goal. :) Beyond this, the suggested language reads as non-encyclopedic.
Do you have a source for the current enrollment figures? I cannot add them without it. (We would not use language like "today", but, with a source, could say "In 2013....")

In terms of Academics, the section has been generally revised as the language includes claims about the success of York's program that cannot be accessed through an available source. We can't say that it "helps students with different learning styles and learning disabilities to function successfully in an academically challenging mainstream setting" without evidence that it does. (I suspect myself it would, but we can't use speculation or primary sources for a claim like that.) I've neutralized the material with details to the program taken from Yorks' website, but I've also remove the precise (and possibly incorrect) dollar amount.

I removed some general unsourced information from facilities & media reports and cleaned up some 'redlinked' names from alumni. That list is supposed to be limited to people who can be sourced as having attended the school and who are sourced as notable individuals. To help control the inevitable growth of vanity lines, people who do not have articles on Wikipedia are frequently removed. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:16, 30 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you weighing in on my suggested updates and taking them live. Just one thing - I noticed in the very first sentence that a semicolon is placed where an apostrophe should be in order to make the very first mention of "York Preparatory School" bold. Should read:

York Preparatory School, commonly referred to as...

Hope that makes sense and you wouldn't mind making the edit. Thanks again. NinaSpezz (talk) 19:35, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not at all; thanks for pointing it out. And that kind of change you are very welcome to make yourself. I appreciate your carefully following our conflict of interest practices, but those kinds of changes should be absolutely non-controversial. :) Wikipedia:COI#Non-controversial_edits. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:01, 4 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Restored content

I have restored this information, which was removed with a note that it is "detrimental to the schools reputation". This in itself is not a reason to remove sourced content. As I explained to the contributor at his talkpage, Wikipedia's purpose is to report neutrally on what reliable sources say about notable subjects. Sometimes, reliable sources report positive things about article subjects, and sometimes they report negative, but as long as the material meets our core content policies it isn't removed. Please see verifiability, neutral point of view and no original research for those core policies. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 23:01, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Canvas

In the current version of the page, it says, "Parents and students receive weekly grades and progress updates via an online grading book called Canvas, a component of the York Prep website," but Canvas is actually not a component of the York Prep website, but a third party service offered by Instructure.

Notable Alumni & Dylan Kern

I have seen the name Dylan Kern added an removed a couple of times from the notable alumni section. In order to add someone to the notable alumni section, the alumnus must have a Wikipedia page about them, which must be wikilinked to their name, and there must be at least one reliable source that says they went to York Prep. --TheBankery (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]