Talk:Yokneam Moshava

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Did you know... that in 2013 the mayor of Yokneam Illit called for the rural village of Yokneam Moshava to be annexed to his city because it was blocking the city's ability to expand?

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Can you explain this removal?

I don't understand why you removed the diasporas from here as well as other places. What do you mean by "Bahrain, Lebanon, Iraq are not in Europe; none of those are diaspora"? Also, it is not correct to say that a settlement was established by "Ashkenazi" or "Sephardi" Jews. And in the case of Yokneam Moshava, it should be written that the they were simply "Jewish immigriants" on behalf of the PLDC.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:07, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

user:Bolter21 Jews coming from Poland after loosing their Polish citizenship are neither Polish people nor Polish citizens, thus they cannot be "diaspora". Polish Jews are Jewish diaspora. Jews from Poland who lost their Polish citizenship are not Polish diaspora. I still cannot understand how Bahraini, Lebanese, Polish and Iraqi Jews are altogether European Jews. GreyShark (dibra) 13:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1) Polish diaspora in Israel refers to Jews of Polish decent living in Israel

2) All of the "X diaspora in Israel" show Jews of X decent living in Israel.

Does the Jewish Diaspora had the citizenship of the Kingdom of Judah and the Roman Empire until 1882?--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:33, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure that Jews from Poland as country of origin, living in srael means "Polish diaspora"? or is it synthesis?

Wikipedia is not a source to prove anything. Some issues in Wikipedia are totally incorrect (including this diaspora definition) - take a look on diaspora definition by William Safran:

In an article published in 1991, William Safran set out six rules to distinguish diasporas from migrant communities. These included criteria that the group maintains a myth or collective memory of their homeland; they regard their ancestral homeland as their true home, to which they will eventually return; being committed to the restoration or maintenance of that homeland; and they relate "personally or vicariously" to the homeland to a point where it shapes their identity.^[1]^[2]^[3]

Clearly Polish Jews do not consider Poland as their legendary homeland and thus are not part of Polish diaspora. Same with other locations.GreyShark (dibra) 13:49, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jews outside of Judea region are diaspora, just like ethnic Assyrians outside of Assyria region are diaspora and ethnic Kurds outside Kurdistan region are diaspora. In some cases diaspora is applied on nationalities (regardless citizenship) like American diaspora (because there is no "American ethnicity" yet), but that is rare.GreyShark (dibra) 13:41, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In other words, all of the categories with "X diaspora in Israel" be renamed "X Jews in Israel" (exmp: "Polish Jews in Israel").--Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:24, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily we need to rename the categories, because there are some diasporas in Israel, but the current situation is simply a mistake - Jews are not considered a diaspora within Israel.GreyShark (dibra) 21:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Currently all of those "X diaspora in Israel" show the distribution of "X Jews" in Israel.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 00:41, 17 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Bolter, are you the one responsible for creating and assigning all those "diaspora" categories? If so, i may suggest to assist you in correcting this mess.GreyShark (dibra) 06:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Bolter21: -apparently obsolete user:Solar-Wind was responsible for those "diaspora" additions.GreyShark (dibra) 12:37, 6 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reflist

^ Brubaker 2005, p. 5.
^ Weinar 2010, p. 75.
^ Cohen 2008, p. 6.

[FOOTNOTEBrubaker20055-1] Brubaker 2005, p. 5.

[FOOTNOTEWeinar201075-2] Weinar 2010, p. 75.

[FOOTNOTECohen20086-3] Cohen 2008, p. 6.

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