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Asanas in the Hatha Yoga Pradipika

The article states:

The Hatha Yoga Pradipika describes the technique of 84 asanas, stating four of these as most important: Padmasana (lotus), Bhadrasana (decent), Sinhasana (lion), and Siddhasana (accomplished).

Tracking the history of this sentence, it seems to have been added in this edit (in lieu of an earlier assertion that "Patanjali listed 84 asanas") to the article on Rāja yoga and moved to this article in these edits. Now,

  1. Why are the details of the book Hatha Yoga Pradipika relevant in this article which is about a different book Yoga Sutras of Patanjali?
  2. Page 33 of the cited reference, https://archive.org/stream/HathaYogaPradipika-SanskritTextWithEnglishTranslatlionAndNotes#page/n33/mode/2up, states:

    Śiva taught 84 âsanas. Of these the first four being essential ones, I am going to explain them here.

    The previous pages list eleven additional asanas, for a total of fifteen.
  3. Why is the order of the asanas different from the cited reference?

For now, I am changing the article text as "The Hatha Yoga Pradipika mentions 84 asanas taught by Shiva, stating four of these as most important: Siddhasana (accomplished), Padmasana (lotus), Sinhasana (lion), and Bhadrasana (decent), and describes the technique of these four and eleven other asanas." -- Paddu (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

Paddu: The section summarizes how YSoP potentially influenced and differs from the later traditions/texts including HYP. The section provides a few specifics and wikilinks. One of our content guidelines is to avoid copy-paste and that we summarize our sources in our own words. Perhaps that may explain some of the good faith re-wording. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:36, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

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Kriya yoga is only mentioned but not explicated in the Sutras

Paramahansa Yogananda and the other 5 avatars (divine incarnations) of the Self-Realization Fellowship line of gurus have revived the kriya yoga technique for the modern age after centuries of priestly secrecy and man's indifference. Kriya yoga is mentioned but not explicated in the Yoga Sutras (II:1) and the Bhagavad-Gita (IV:29 and V:28, as explained in Paramahansa Yogananda's *God Talks With Arjuna: The Bhagavad-Gita* (published by SRF). Yoganananaji also states in his introduction to the SRF lessons that this technique was taught by Krishna to Arjuna (his statement is due to his omnipresence, and is not easily verified other than also becoming omnipresent, or Self-realized).

So it is worth mentioning in this article that the specific technique of Kriya yoga is available through SRF, and is taught in much more detail than the brief mention in YS II:1. The Kriya technique is also available through other sources freely online, but you don't get the same benefits as through SRF in terms of being part of a holistic and well-organized body of teachings for all-round spiritual and material development, and disseminated via the ordained channel for dissemination of kriya yoga through SRF and originating with Mahavatar Babaji, the deathless avatar. Jamesray1 (talk) 13:44, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

It sounds as though all there should be here is a See also link to Kriya yoga. Anything more than that would need to be reliably sourced; but since you're talking about things over a thousand years younger than the Sutras, there isn't much reason to talk about them here. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:14, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

The section on 'Contents'

The 'Contents' section is far from balanced at the moment. It begins fine with a short summary of the four chapters, then devotes a short explanatory section to verse 1.2 titled 'Purpose of yoga' -- this is arguably explication not contents at all, but forgivable perhaps as the central theme. What happens next is less good: the whole of the rest of the section, at least 2/3 of the section's text, is devoted to the eight limbs. This is a) covered in another article, so should only be a short summary here and b) ignores all the other elements of the Yoga Sutras. One of those elements, Samadhi, is partially covered in 'Discussion', the next section, but the whole of the rest of the contents, for instance the 'extraordinary powers', is basically overlooked. We would do better to expand the account of the four chapters to at least outline what they present, to provide a roughly even coverage of the whole. Chiswick Chap (talk) 00:04, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

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