Talk:Yesterday (2019 film)

Paul/Ringo?

Is there any reliable source confirming that Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr are in this movie? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.169.15 (talk) 01:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

• The movie appears to be a British remake of Jean-Phillipe, if it is then they'd pretty much have to be in it.--96.44.197.17 (talk) 15:30, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Jean-Philippe (film)

Is this film inspired by Jean-Philippe? If so (the resemblances are obvious), it should be said. --Edelseider (talk) 09:44, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

British people will feel a strong 'Deja-Vu' with "Goodnight Sweetheart". A UK time-travel sitcom also involving the main character passing-off Beatles songs as his own, while living a double life in the 1940s. 79.75.225.64 (talk) 12:59, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

There was also an episode of Channel 4's 'The Comic Strip Presents called 'Private Enterprise' https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0544881/ that was about an office worker finding a band's recordings and passing them off as the work of his band until he was found out. Robata (talk) 23:29, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

The film is not inspired by any previous works. The story's genesis is explicated in this Wall Street Journal piece (firewall - sorry): — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon Bender 69 (talk • contribs) 08:54, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

References

Previews/synopsis dates

The synopsis doesn't specify a time setting the movie takes place in. A statement by a producer mentioned in the article a time setting of 1960s or '70s. Previews show the principle character searching the internet to find no mention of The Beatles. 98.164.64.68 (talk) 05:49, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

John Lennon died!

Cast lists contradicts that John Lennon is still alive today, and playing himself in a movie role whilst he died in the 80s. I think Paul and Ringo played themselves. --InvictusImperator (talk) 21:43, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

Parallel Universe Theory?

Has no one realised that basically what happened when the power outage struck was that jack was placed into a parallel universe in an alternate future happened, (hence why no one other than the couple with holding the yellow submarine) remember the beatles? Same reason coca-cola did not exist either. It wasnt that everybody forgot who the beatles were, its because they didnt ever exist, and also the reason John Lennon was still alive and portrayed in the film.--Nzoomed (talk) 07:46, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Nzoomed is correct; the wording in the article -- "No one remembers the Beatles" -- is simply wrong because in this parallel universe, the Beatles never existed, and one can't remember something that did not exist. The correct wording would be something like "Jack regains consciousness in a world -- perhaps a parallel universe, although the movie never explains -- in which the Beatles never existed."Chandlerburr (talk) 06:27, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

I totally agree with both you guys, and edited the article accordingly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marainlaw (talk • contribs)

You would need to cite a reliable source stating that interpretation. Otherwise, just stating what happens in the movie is sufficient. DonQuixote (talk) 13:19, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Plot says "After realizing no one in the world remembers them, Jack begins performing Beatles songs, passing them off as his own.". This seems incorrect because there are scenes in the film showing that cigarette never existed. Harry Potter too. In this world, ie after that accident and global blackout, it appears he's now living in a different reality where Beatles, cigarette, Harry Potter, Coca-cola etc never existed. Ravi arnie (talk) 17:52, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

I removed the clause "After realizing no one in the world remembers them" as it is confusing in a parallel universe framework (as pointed out above) and really isn't necessary to the sentence. Schazjmd (talk) 18:05, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

I disagree with stating as "fact" that this is an alternate universe. Maybe it is an alternate universe, but it could be also be reality itself changed, or God altered history or it's all in Jack's head. The movie doesn't say. I think the article should just say that no one but Jack has heard of the Beatles and not say he's been transported to an alternate universe, as we can't know that's what happened. Silvertron (talk) 07:16, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Robert Carlyle

Robert Carlyle plays John Lennon - as is reported in several publications. This should be in the cast list, no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keb Hustle (talk • contribs) 11:21, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Yep. Popcornduff (talk) 11:23, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, looking at the edit history, I think I removed this by mistake while trying to fight the vandalism. Got confused. Popcornduff (talk) 11:26, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

What about a paragraph regarding controversy?

Apparently, this article is missing a paragraph about controversy. A graphic novel publish in 2011 tells exactly the same story and has the same title : Yesterday (ISBN: 9782359760330)

Article on Variety

Article on Liberation

EdouardLacan (talk) 11:52, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

It's also the same story of an episode of a TV show from the 1980s but I can't remember the TV show name but I remember a family traveling to a place where there was no music. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.77.85.65 (talk) 04:35, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

It's already covered in the article. See the Marketing section. Maestro2016 (talk) 05:47, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

No, it has nothing to do with marketing. Moreover there is no comparaison between all the taken example and the French graphic novel Yesterday.

It has the exact same title and the plot is the same.

I don’t think that the comparaison with Jean Philippe or any TV show episode has been commented on worldwide media such as Variety or national media such as Liberation or France Info. 

When you mix different information at the same level of importance it’s called misinformation. I don’t think it is what Wikipedia is about. __EdouardLacan (talk) 11:50, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

Since no one is answering my discussion, I put the paragraph about controversy back on the article. I'll name it "Similarities" for a more neutral point of view but I repeat this has nothing to do with marketing. EdouardLacan (talk) 07:36, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

An earlier example of a similar plot with Ken Grimwood's Replay (1986), though it is a novel not a film, and features use of bettering on sports, stockmarket and remaking films as well as mention of music. Don't know if that is worth mentioning or if there are earlier examples of this plot device.

Soundtrack

Should a section for the movie's soundtrack album be added?

CAMERAwMUSTACHE (talk) 14:07, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Missing plot information

In the plot synopsis there is no mention of the two Beatles fans until they walk in and thank Jack. This makes it read like the writer simply threw them into the story at the end as an out-of-nowhere plot twist of no consequence, rather introducing the first of them fairly early and gradually raising their profile suspensefully to suggest that Jack's house of cards is on the verge of coming apart. A few other key plot developments – the reversal of mentor/mentee relationship between Ed and Jack, Jack initially going with Debra and leaving Ellie – are also missing or inadequately explained. The statement that "Ed arranges for Jack to perform..." confuses which character is the motivating force behind it. But my attempts to address these problems were summarily reverted as "unnecessary details, bad punctuation"? -Jason A. Quest (talk) 18:15, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

I came to this party a little late; I agree with you about the Russian man and the British woman and explained who they are. I know some people are touchier than I'd like about plot summaries being strictly limited in size. I agree with you about the Ed/Jack relationship; hopefully that can be put back without the plotsize cops getting riled. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:54, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, plotsize cops here. We don't need to explain the two Beatles fans' early appearances. We don't need to include the foreshadowing and dramatic teases. For the purposes of summarising the plot, the only part that actually matters is when they appear and explain themselves. Popcornduff (talk) 02:28, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

僕はビートルズ does not mean "We are the Beatles"

僕はビートルズ does not mean "We are the Beatles." It means "I am the Beatles." 僕 (Boku) is the first person singular, "I." "Boku tachi" is "we."Chandlerburr (talk) 06:33, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. Popcornduff (talk) 16:55, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete and therefore meaningless sentence

In the casting section there is a sentence that begins, "Boyle convinced Patel was the right choice...". This appears to have a word or words missing and is therefore meaningless. Does it mean, "Boyle was convinced that Patel was the right choice", "Boyle convinced Patel that he was the right choice" or "Boyle convinced [somebody else] that Patel was the right choice"? 2001:BB6:4713:4858:F816:D761:1C2B:79FE (talk) 14:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done Fixed, thanks. Popcornfud (talk) 14:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

Wording in "writing" section correct (John Lennon as fisherman)?

Currently in the section "Writing", there is the sentence "However, according to Barth, the final film includes many elements of his screenplay, including John Lennon as a wizened fisherman and a joke about Harry Potter." I am not sure that Lennon is portrayed as a fisherman in the film - he appears to be an artist (which would fit with the knowledge of his surviving drawings etc.). Am I right, in which case the sentence may need some qualification or amending? Regards Tony Tony 1212 (talk) 20:30, 1 September 2024 (UTC)

From https://www.salon.com/2019/07/29/what-yesterday-and-everyone-else-forgets-about-the-beatles/ : "Lennon apparently became a seaman (like his father in fact) rather than a musician and lives in a comfortable retirement in a cottage by the sea, where he makes drawings that look suspiciously like the kind of art that Lennon himself produced." Tony 1212 (talk) 20:36, 1 September 2024 (UTC)