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This is not as how it was supposed to be ...

The present lemma is about a given name (first name) and about a family name (last name). That is not correct, it is now a sort of disambiguation/redirect-page, not an article,

If someone on en-wp wants to make an article about Yeganeh as a given name (first name in many cultures), fine ! If someone on en-wp wants to make an article about Yeganeh as an inherited name (family name; in many cultures last name, splendid !

But the present article is about a given/first name and about a family/last name. For various (mostly good) reasons this is deprecated on Wikimedia. A given name, a family name and a disambiguation are not the same thing.

And what is this thing really about ?

"Yeganeh (Persian: یگانه, romanized: Yegâne) or Yegana (Azerbaijani: Yeganə) is a Persian[1] and Azerbaijani[2] (Azerbaijani: Yeganə) is a Persian and Azerbaijani ..." 

No. The subject should be be clear ... Is this about "Yeganeh", "یگانه" (fa?) or "Yegana" (az?) or ...? And besides that it was allready, in this lemma, named as a given name, an inherited name and a sort of disambiguation-page.

It seems that all these names are linked by etymology, but the present lemma, only very shortly refers to supposed common origin.

I can understand, a bit, that en-wp-people feel not obliged to wider standards, because they think that Wikipedia is theirs. however, that is not working out. Wikimedia is important also because of the input of non-anglophone and non-Europeans. And the interconnections (via Wikidata etc.) are For Wikipedia to be successful, we have to adhere to some simple common standards, like: a first name is not the same as a last name; a disambiguation/redirect -page is not the same as a page about a given name or a family name.

A big part of our "game" is that we connect articles in various languages to Wikimedia Commons (pictures etc.) and to other languages, nowadays mainly via Wikidata. If we respect each other we can make Wikipedia more relevant. This lemma, and its associate wikidata-item, are in present form not helpful, even harmful, because WP in other languages cannot really connect to these ambiguous items in the English language.

Wikipedia/Wikimedia, as i understood, had always the big ideal for connecting people, in different regions and across different languages. Here, and in other situations, i get disappointed about what i see as a disrespect from en-language-people towards those who do not speak English a maternal or otherwise primary language. If your goal is to use Wikimedia to suppress people, i will make sure that you will not succeed in that. See you (hopefully as a friend). Paulbe (talk) 01:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]