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DX5/DX1[edit]Why are the DX5 and DX1 listed in the same heading, yet this article's title is only DX1? Badagnani (talk) 06:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Especially as there is a seperate article for the DX5... 83.108.109.16 (talk) 21:44, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Capitalization[edit]Shouldn't DX be capitalized? Badagnani (talk) 06:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC) Text copying from vintagesynth.com[edit]Someone keeps copy-pasting in text from the DX1 review on vintagesynth.com. Please don't add this in as it's in the style of an advertisement, not an encyclopedia article. Arekku (talk) 04:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Leave the front image on the center as the overview of the DX1[edit]After looking at the center larger image I am happy with that image as it stands now. The right view makes it is harder to get the overall look of an actual DX-1. The center view is much more easier to see especially for the first time seeing one. Since the DX-1 is a massive synthesizer it should be viewed as one.--24.205.236.249 (talk) 05:35, 13 January 2011 (UTC) I was the one that changed the image layout of the article. While I agree it is an impressive looking synth , Wikipedia's image style guide states that the lead image should be less than 500px wide, and in the infobox. The massive image makes the article very difficult to read on lower resolution screens, and does not match up with other articles on Wikipedia. If anyone wants to see the image in it's full glory, they can just click on it! --Danjewell (talk) 09:12, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
I still disagree, it's not how a Wikipedia article should look and people with older computers would have difficulty reading the article. However, I don't want to start an edit war, so I won't change it back. --Danjewell (talk) 09:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Yamaha DX1 article cannot be abused[edit]Master_Bigode changed content on Yamaha DX1 by eliminating important content[1] without any discussion, eliminating the synthesizers history, discription, pictures and true importance on information explaining everything about the Yamaha DX-1. This is an information article about the DX-1 it is not a place to abuse the content.--Globalstatus (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC).
Asking if you own a DX1 is relevant because 60% of the information on a DX1 is not on the internet, part of it is in the synthesizer and the other half is not published for example. If you were to search everything on a DX1 tell me what information will you find on it besides on the 1 page of Google (or more) that I already know about? For example do you have a clue of information where to buy a single part on the DX1 (besides a power cord, memory card & manual)? Big deal if you ask, as I have over 400 pages of information on the synthesizer (which hardly any of that information is not online since I bought mine from a original DX-1 engineer from 1983 during its construction phrase) and no one else does except a few DX1 owners. Inside the keyboard Yamaha there were several documents inside (not all of them though), kind of like a prize inside a Cracker Jack Box for information. Knowing the full details of its schematics is a big deal but had I not own a DX1 this would be a different story posting irrelevant information on the synthesizer, just not available. So to tell me its relevant or not, sorry but I am not buying that. Nothing which I find repeating itself nor do I find myself or the other editors stating something irrelevant to the content to the DX1. The Roland SH-1001 which I own as well is completely different and nothing a DX1 will ever be. I think the article on the SH-1001 is horrible on its description and explains nearly nothing what it is all about as I am embarrassed to read it. However to compare a DX-1 they are completely different from each other. Some of the DX-1 community is located here[2] but the site does not post everything available but I am known within the DX-1 community here. I however I will post information on the DX-1 in more detail later but I do not want to post everything on it as I feel it is worth being an owner to get that information to appreciate it as every DX1 of the 140 to 210 there were built there is something special about every one of them and a few a little more as well. I would tell you to find a DX-1 yourself and write about it then, as it is irrelevant to what you have to say about it than not owning one.--Globalstatus (talk) 02:52, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Yamaha DX1 article being abused[edit]The Yamaha DX-1 article has been attacked by Wolftengu who apparently eliminated all the detailed information and photographs claiming the article is unencyclopedic saying the content is word writtten & hearsay. I have no idea where this came from to make such a statement but Wolftengu doesn't know what he is talking about on a Yamaha DX1. The article has been gathered by several people who all contributed useful sources to explain important information about the DX1; not erasing giving no details. There's no evidence of fact that Wolftengu has to say the article is or from on a personal site, and copied it into here lock-stock-and-barrelon is completely misleading & mind baffling. Where then? And saying weasel words in creating an impression? This is not brag article, it is a discription on a Yamaha synthesizer for pete's sake and the editing community contributed to it's content & sources. This is about educating people about a rare synthesizer that is mearly impossible to gather information, it is that rare and to respect the contributers who help build that content to discribe it so the educating world has an idea what the DX1 is, not a mystery. Eliminating that information is purely abuse and should be discussed first (so others have there opinions about the content) before doing so.--71.84.3.109 (talk) 19:21, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Here we go again, time to consensus the Yamaha DX-1 article on undo's without proper knowledge and refs[edit]Master Bigode has being undoing and undoing the article but taking no involvement in the discussions. He dislikes the center image & side image, dislikes the content, dislikes Youtube as a source (even through Youtube is used in 1000's of Wikipedia articles) and etc. I asked Master Bigode if he owns a DX-1 and he said no ()clearly matters as the DX-1 has content inside the synthesizer about number made, contents and etc information on them not published). I asked him to supply information about references and content, which he has not done so but has only undid everything in his path to undo the article instead. If the article is posted and those are trying to update it and providing information, if you don't like the content then use the discussions tap to discuss the article first as I have clearly done before editing. If you want to add to it than post in the discussions what you wish to add so other can see the update. If you have posted the update content and no one has replied then I am fine with you modifying the article after a few days. You help imforming people what you wish to add to the article and modify without discussion. So I am being this matter to discussion. 1. I pledge to have the center image remain on the center of the article, instead of the right side and two use the back side image in the left side of the page. If you have disagreements on the images I need to see why to debate this. Remember the center image and back side is my DX-1 images which I have donated to use. 2. The content, if you don't like the content then you need to consensus the content you wish to use but know since there is hardly much information on a DX-1 good luck providing the material. I happened to have a lot of paperwork on the DX-1 which I have not posted online. I pledge to use the same content from before [3] February 22, 2011 but I will correct some of the sentences from before. Since I am pledging to use the same as before I also will add more content to add more about the synthesizer in detail. 3. Youtube video's, since Youtube is used on a lot of article than I will search for other video feeds on the DX-1 to use. If I do not hear any disagreements overtime than I will edit the article and notify adminstrators on my discussions first if the article is abused without proper discussions first. I will post a pre content edit before I add the content to the article to verify so others can view the content first.--Globalstatus (talk) 00:23, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
--Globalstatus (talk) 20:40, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
Seems you are not making clear sense and not willing to admit the information here. It says under policy Master Bigode and you have stated yourself that 500 x 400 images was max right here [8] on March 29, 2011 but now you don't agree afterwards on 500 x 400. You seem to disallow the rule on correct images [9] which makes you above the law. You are violating policy by your edits. First you edit without consensus, then your reply nothing on the discussion afterward over the subject but after the fact. Makes perfect sense that you apparently want to rein the article for other viewers. Second the back image, you also make no argument to place that either, style guidelines, it is within image policy. Is Wikipedia according to you here because you are not making clear sense. I will repeat it again because you have not answered:
Your not answering the question: I will repeat it again because you have not answered:
--Globalstatus (talk) 06:52, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I will repeat it again because you have not answered:
Lastly this is a discussion, you edited on it that means you take responsiblity for your actions.--Globalstatus (talk) 17:06, 29 June 2011 (UTC) Yamaha DX1 article has been abused by user Master Bigode from Brazil[edit]Making a discussion on the Yamaha DX-1 article which has been abused[18] by Master Bigode[19] profile[20][21][22] for not following the rules on images. The rules allows 500x400 size images[23] and that the fact Master Bigode admitted himself that 500 X 400[24] was the max size to be allowed for using an image in an article but also erased even the back side image in the middle of the article too[25] without consenus. Why the public can't view the back side as well? Who else opposes it? The article requires more insight on its images but for user Master Bigode to decide without consensus to make what he thinks is best but does not own a DX-1 and probably has never seen a DX-1 nor do I think he works for Yamaha either, since he refuses to answer because he thinks it is not important. The article needs more photographs and it is ashame that Master Bigode is abusing the article by disallowing images within the rules of Wikipedia. 500 x 400 is allowed for the article and this image can be accepted as an image to display the DX-1 and even the back image to show the public what the other half of it looks like. Again if Master Bigode had owned a DX-1 then what good is it if he has no proper knowledge on the synthesizer of looks, electronics, data, made and etc. Why is it revelant? Again if you own a DX-1 their is rare literature inside the synthesizer that Yamaha did not provide to the public but to the owners. Try searching that information online and you'll find nothing (but inside contains small brochure of images, extra nuts, screws, data material layout map, material used and made from, production made number, name of specific engineer built synthesizer all inside the DX-1). The article needs a discussion on fixing the images from size, placement and images of discription. However with user Master Bigode creating a problem for the article here, there needs to be a consenus from other editors to discuss fixing this mess. What you see on the article currently is what Master Bigode thinks it should look like[26] which is wrong. Consensus is needed to fix this error--Globalstatus (talk) 18:08, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm not 18 from Brazil but your information is based on your opinion that does not help the article. You said The 500x400 limit is meant for other uses such as landscape pictures and the like, not for pictures that are used merely for illustrative purposes. Ah so that is what you say as I read from before but now your saying landscape pictures you didn't say that on March 29, 2011 though. Your crossing your information here[32] which puts you in a box what your trying to do here. First too big, then not so matchy and now its landscape articles. 500 x 400 is the rule on Wikipedia but an opinion of what you want it to look like using landscape pictures. Are you trying to find answers to think of not using a center 500 x 400? You said As for the other picture, the back of the keyboard isn't clearly visible, But Master Bigode you said here too small is to just click on it, so your interfaring with your own mishop here [33]. So you now eliminate the the size of the center picture from 500 x 400 to 50 x 50 then you go and say the backside image of the DX-1 was not clearly visible but you take the size of the original image so small enough to say just click on it to see it, what about the side image, are you making your own determination by eliminating complaining you can't see it but when asked on the original image was too small and not as visible your input was to just click on it?[34]. That does not clarify for you to undo, you choose to erase the image on your own here, you also choose not to bring up another image vice versa it is was too small either, you made no replacement. You made the choice to eliminate any second image period. Are you representing Yamaha here or Kermit the frog? So are people suppose use the internet instead to find a picture of DX-1 on the back what the back looks like or what? Tell me, where on the Yamaha DX-1 does it says on the keyboard it says DX-1 in clear print? Tell me where for example? Do you know the answer? Answer it as it is important for the discussion of this article. You saidbut even if it was, what's the point ? It's not like there's anything back there that isn't available in other keyboards. Depends on the editors for every article, thats the choose if someone or people in another article wanted to post them or not. Yamaha DX-1 is the cream of the crop on the DX series so there's important facts that matter for something important. You saidAgain, you have 2 choices: listen to me and leave this article alone, or revert my edits and have the admins repeat everything I have already said and risk being blocked again. Are you telling me to sit in back of the bus[35] because I am black? I guess you like making threats, that is not a discussion issue but adminstrative complaint. .--Globalstatus (talk) 21:43, 29 June 2011 (UTC) |
Revert warring
[edit]A sequence of editors have been engaging in unconstructive practices.This needs to stop. Please read Wp:BRD. The principal is simple. Once either editor recognizes that a disagreement exists, the text goes back to its prior state and both parties have a discussion on the talk page until they can find a wp:consensus. Please check the attitudes and work on collaboration instead. LeadSongDog come howl! 13:55, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Placing true original price on DX1
[edit]There is $10,900 on the article page but the true original price was $13,900.00 for a Yamaha DX1 back in 1984.http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/dx1.php#comments_anchor --Oxforduniversity1 (talk) 20:01, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Since when is VSE a reliable source? Quite the opposite.
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Analog vs. Digital
[edit]Recently someone modified the type of synthesis from Digital to Analog, which is... interesting to say the least. Misunderstanding of the technology? It is mentioned the DX-1 contains twice the DX-7's chipset. The DX-7 produces audio using sine-wave lookup tables for the generators and the like. References: https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/970692-whats-inside-yamaha-dx7.html https://www.gearslutz.com/board/electronic-music-instruments-and-electronic-music-production/960511-digital-vs-analog-modulation-more.html
I would therefore vote to revert this change. UniversalNation (talk) 10:53, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
Images
[edit]I would like to introduce at least one better article image, namely where the synth is powered on, its front panel illuminated. This would greatly help understanding all these individual displays. Pictures from the Wolf Collection are really nice, albeit i'm assuming they won't upload them / let these be used. UniversalNation (talk) 20:24, 2 November 2020 (UTC)