Talk:Yakun

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Did you know... that scholars disagree on whether the name of the Viking chieftain Jakun means either "blind" or "the handsome one"?

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Move to Yakun

Since the Primary Chronicle is written in Old Church Slavonic and I guess the first letter in his name there is written with Я his name in English would be Yakun and not Jakun. Jakun would be the Swedish transliteration. Narking (talk) 20:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are several standards to choose between in the romanization of Russian. This article uses the scientific transliteration, since it is the one used in the main source by the Harvard historian Omeljan Pritsak.--Berig (talk) 17:18, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's true that it is the scientific transliteration, but that is not the most common one that's used, and certainly not here in Wikipedia. For anglophones Ja would give another pronunciation than the original sound, which is closer to Ya. For example you will find Yakov and not Jakov here. See also BGN/PCGN romanization of Russian. Narking (talk) 18:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Concerning names that are unknown to most English-speakers, I always stick to how names are presented in scholarly literature, since that is where English-speakers will find the names off-wiki. If English-speakers are likely to misunderstand the pronunciation, I think it's better to add an IPA pronunciation guide.--Berig (talk) 19:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I still think it would be better with Yakun. Especially when Yaroslav I the Wise is mentioned in the same article. There Я has become Ya, but Yakun has become Jakun even though they both start with the same letter. It may not be according to scientific transliteration, but it's immediately understandable for anglophones and not just for Scandinavians and Germans. At least an IPA pronunciation guide and a redirect are needed here. Narking (talk) 20:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Googling, I have got some hits where he is spelled with Ya-, so it's only fair to have both transliterations in the intro. It's nice to see a fellow Närking here, and I just came back from spending some time over there. I loved hearing the Närking pronunciation of roligt with the thick l and the twang to the i again :).--Berig (talk) 06:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say I have that much twang to the i, but I guess people can figure out which province I'm from anyway :) And I must say that the scientific transliteration of Cyrillic letters is much better, but unfortunately most anglophones wouldn't understand it. Narking (talk) 17:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]