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Requested move

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The result of the proposal was no consensus to move the page, per the discussion below. Not really any evidence presented on either side of the argument, as noted by Badagnani and Erudy. Dekimasuよ! 02:08, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Xeremia → Xeremía — Accent marks are a good thing. —harej (talk) 02:54, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose No reason is given for the move request. TJ Spyke 20:40, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Move. With the accent is the correct Spanish spelling. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose. Without the accent is the correct Catalan spelling. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can we have evidence presented and carefully evaluated before any change is made (as we should always do)? Badagnani (talk) 04:03, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I agree with the statement Diacritics should only be used in an article's title, if it can be shown that the word is routinely used in that way, with diacritics, in common English usage. This means in reliable English sources, such as encyclopedias, dictionaries, or articles in major English-language newspapers. The Spanish, Basque or Celtic form is of interest in the article, but titles should use the common English form. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use common names of persons and things. The Wikipedia is not prescriptive, it is descriptive. --Bejnar (talk) 06:34, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose any move that's based on "accent marks are a good thing". Evidence should be presented that English language sources (there seems to be none in the article at the moment) generally use the accented variant before proposing a move like this. Jafeluv (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- To be fair, it wasn't harej who originally proposed the move, and the original proposer stated no reason for the page move. Anyway, I still see no reason to move the page. Jafeluv (talk) 19:42, 3 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose No evidence of common usage.Erudy (talk) 01:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Deleted bit on Goths and/or Celts as source for Arab usage

I deleted the speculative comment about Spanish Celts or Goths as the source for Moorish use of bagpipes. The description referenced sounds like Baines’ category of “primitive bagpipes”, not Western bagpipes, thus precluding a Celtic or Gothic source. Arabic groups have long played bagpipes that have at most a very distant connection with the Western times (like the xeremia) and you don’t need to posit a Western source at a very early date (near the earliest attestations of Western bagpipes) for the Moors to have bagpipes, especially as evidence of bagpipes’ use in the Arab/North African world goes back much further than in Europe.

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This is not a Xerermia, but Xeremies

It might be hard to get, but a xeremia is a different instrument than the xeremies:

Xeremia in a Catalan language dictionary.

First meaning, in singular, is «caramella» (ie, chalumeau). Then, again in singular, it can be the melody pipe of the xeremies (the bagpipe). And, in plural, «xeremies» are a bagpipe.

--77.75.179.1 (talk) 14:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]