Talk:Xenophobia and racism related to the COVID-19 pandemic/Archive 3

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United States, Oklahoma ?

The single incident of xenophobia listed for the sub section "Oklahoma" is something Donald Trump said. This same incident is quoted in the main "United States" section. This is duplicative and probably has little to do with the state.

"However, at his Tulsa, Oklahoma rally on June 20th President Trump referred to the virus as "Kung Flu".[327]"

"On 20 June 2020, in a speech in Tulsa, Oklahoma, former President of the United States Donald Trump used language widely considered racist when he referred to COVID-19 as "Kung Flu",[427]" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.191.102.240 (talk) 20:49, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 September 2021

Windbourne (talk) 00:14, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

The section about Colorado has nothing to do with covid. Simply read the link to find out. It was just a copycat who was looking for attention. windbourne

 Done. Agreed that this is WP:UNDUE for this article that is about incidents related to the pandemic, not simply occurring during it. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 00:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

Poland is registered under Asia and not Europe. --83.142.137.15 (talk) 21:44, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

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This article needs a complete overall

Currently, it is incredibly long and trivial. The current readable prose size is 16,439 words, far over the 10,000 word limit recommended by WP:Article size. It's also incredibly skewed towards the United States, including separate sections for 31 US states (for comparison, it mentions 51 countries total, including the US). Developed countries with significant roles in world politics, such as Greece, Portugal, and Spain, are completely left out, without so much as a mention. Many of these listed incidents are quite minor in the grand scheme of things (not every single instance of COVID-19-related racism needs to be included), while many of these events appear to be hate crimes with no direct connection to pandemic. Some of this is just plain off-topic; the incident where BTS was called a "crappy virus" seems to simply have been a poor choice of words on the radio host's part and not actual xenophobia. Some of this information can be split, but I think most editors can agree with my opinion that much of this requires deletion. I am making this post in hope that we as Wikipedia contributors can coordinate a plan for what to keep and what to discard.

--An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 01:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Mostly disagree. While the 10k limit is indeed a recommendation it isn't really binding. Some articles just need to be longer, and I absolutely believe this is one of them. It's an important subject. Some sections could probably be split off and referenced back as a shorter paragraph. And some incidents could probably be cut (but I heavily disagree that most could be). Re: a poor choice of words on the radio host's part and not actual xenophobia. It doesn't matter what your or my personal opinion is, if the sources say something is xenophobia, it is applicable to the scope of this article. If sources don't say this, then it can probably be cut. (See WP:DUE. Overall, I think this comment is off-base and likely represents a lot of personal feelings about content and not a fair/balanced application of policy. For example, it is usually better to expand the parts that are underserved rather than cut the parts you think are "skewed". — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 02:15, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

I understand your points, but I still don't see why this article needs to be as long as it is. If you really would like to keep most of this information, my opinion is that it would be best to move much of it into separate articles (Xenophobia and racism related to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States, Xenophobia and racism related to the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, etc.) and leave this article for more general information. I'm not sure what "personal feelings" you are talking about, but here are some examples of off-topic sources I found with little effort that do not mention the pandemic in any way: 1, 2, 3. --An anonymous username, not my real name (talk) 20:03, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2022

In one of the cases, 'attached' is written instead of 'attacked' Koreacurry (talk) 20:15, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

 Done Cannolis (talk) 20:48, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

The edits are biased.

Your edits only include the white perpetrators of hate towards those of us that are of asian decent. You’re doing a serious disservice by doing this and not including the entirety of the data. There have been edits that include the data from the CDC and the Justice Department which were taken down by other editors stating these data were “opinion pieces” and not empirical. I urge you to look in to those editors as they are damaging Wikis reputation for truth and unbiased information. 2600:387:F:4B10:0:0:0:5 (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Can't possibly have anything to do with the fact that 75% of the perpetrators overall were indeed white, in addition to being male and republican. Wikipedia is only reporting on what the reliable sources say, and reliable sources are just reporting on what's objectively factual. 46.97.170.225 (talk) 12:35, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

Not true about the 75%. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbggL4f5mZA

As mentioned by the founder of Wikipedia, Wikipedia is left biased so you should not be surprised that the edits will be biased. 69.47.179.247 (talk) 13:45, 15 July 2022 (UTC)