Talk:Xavi Simons

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Review: November 5, 2023. (Reviewed version).

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Keep, 7 May 2020, see discussion.
delete, January 13, 2019, see discussion.

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Contested deletion

@Praxidicae: This page should not be speedily deleted because... as stated in the creation note, the player now meets WP:GNG. Several articles written about Simons, and definitely more notable than other recent page creations which have been brought to AfD and allowed to stand, i.e. Luqman Hakim Shamsudin. --Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 18:31, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prove it with a source then because the ones you've included aside from CNN are garbage. Praxidicae (talk) 18:32, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Praxidicae: since when is goal.com not a reputable source? I've seen it used numerous times in football articles, i.e. Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Neymar. Also your removing the fact that his father was a former professional footballer seems kind of pointless, it's a relevant fact. The article should stand with the remaining sources, as this still meets WP:GNG. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:COATRACK. Also this is not a reliable source this might come from a reliable website but this piece is far from reliable and this isn't about him and confirms no statement in the sentence it's citing. Praxidicae (talk) 18:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Praxidicae: fair. But I have put the goal.com source back in as I still feel it is relevant. I also still feel that this article meets WP:GNG and would rather see it go to an AfD than a speedy deletion, as I think other members of the community would agree. Davidlofgren1996 (talk) 18:47, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

club games

xavi has played two games in ligue1 Mahdi1000j (talk) 06:48, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sabi Simons has returned to PSG according to fabrizio romano

Sabi simons has officially returned to PSG 160.176.81.146 (talk) 12:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

False information edit this out immediately

in the 2nd paragraph it said he played for juventus (jj) and also saying hes won a serie a and a coppa italia when he hasnt played in juventus or won these thropies?? edit this someone 2600:1012:A13A:12BA:B43F:D5EE:875B:4239 (talk) 03:46, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Idiosincrático (talk) 05:37, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Idiosincrático (talk · contribs) 02:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to review this article over the next few days. :) Idiosincrático (talk) 02:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Initial comments

Bleacher Report is not a reliable source and has been discussed many times as not an appropriate source for Wikipedia, please try and use something different where used. Done
The Soccerway link in the External links section is already referenced in the article and should be removed from the section. Done
References by The Athletic are subscription access, each reference needs to have the "URL access level" parameter set to "subscription" Done
SPORTbible really isn't a reliable reference for Wikipedia and something else should be used. Done

Honours & Statistics

Citation #73 (for the KNVB Cup), needs to have Nederlandse Omroep Stichting listed as the publisher. Done
Citation #34, needs to have the publisher parameter as "PSV" or "Philips Sport Vereniging", anytime a club offical website is cited, the club name needs to be listed as the publisher. Done
For the "Club statistics" table, each row/season needs to be cited individually per WP:FOOTY. For an example, see Martin Ødegaard's club stats table, each season is referenced. Soccerbase is a good citation as it has the full list of games for each season, works really well here. Done

Once these concerns are met, I'll be happy with the Honours & Statistics sections, Ping me and I'll finish the review for the rest of the article. :) Idiosincrático (talk) 02:31, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Idiosincrático: All comments have been addressed! For the career statistics section, I didn't use Soccerbase, but FootballDatabase.eu instead; my school-issued computer blocks me from accessing Soccerbase. Paul Vaurie (talk) 04:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

International career

Cition #53, Ben Hayward, both names should be in the last name/first name parameters; they're both in last name. Done
I know I didn't like the nos.nl before but I think it should be okay, I changed it back. Done
Pretty happy with this section

Personal life

Citation #61 (Puma), de-capitalise. Not done — the Puma reference itself uses all-caps, so I just used what was on the article itself. Unless there's a policy against this, I see no issue with having a citation in all-caps.
Also just another thing, either translate every non-english title or none at all for consistency. I noticed a few references don't have translations and some do. Done
I ran the citation and archive bots which fixed alot. Done

Early career & life

Well written and cited. Done

PSG

"Simons moved to French side Paris Saint-Germain (PSG)" > Simons moved to French club Paris Saint-Germain (PSG) Done
Besoccer is not a reliable source, has been discussed a few times. Done
"appearance of the 2021–22 season came in a 1–1 away draw to Lyon on" > appearance of the 2021–22 season came in a 1–1 away draw with Lyon on Done
Other than that, really good. Done

PSV

Can link AFC Ajax–PSV Eindhoven rivalry with "rivals" when discussing the 5–3 win over Ajax. Not done — violation of MOS:SOB
"Simons scored a brace" > Simons scored a brace (two goals); the term brace isn't common and needs clarification. Not done — a link should suffice here.
"order to finalize a" > order to finalise; spelt with an 's' in British English Not done — see MOS:ARTCON. I happen to write in American English, and since this article is mostly written by me, let's keep it consistent as such.
Citation #44, club name needs to go into the publisher parameter Done
Pretty happy with the rest of the 'club career' section.

Other

Lead is neat, I might make some reference adjustments after these points are addressed then I'll make sure the GA is passed :) Idiosincrático (talk) 08:26, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Idiosincrático: All comments have been addressed! I had to object to some of them, but I did the rest. Please ping me if there's anything else you need! Paul Vaurie (talk) 23:55, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All done :) Idiosincrático (talk) 05:34, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Different Loan Deal

Xavi went on loan for 1 season, the loan contract then ended and he signed again on a separate deal after a period of time. So basically adding Leipzig twice from 2023–2024 and 2024– as two different deals is my suggestion. 5.45.131.126 (talk) 10:58, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]