Talk:World Fencing Championships

Attributing Soviet Union medals all to Russia.

Is it justified to do this? The Soviet Union dissolved into many separate nation states. Surely athletes from some of these, eg Ukraine, which are good at fencing and would have competed for the USSR should not have any medals they won for USSR given to Russia. In any case it seems wrong to do this. East Germany was dissolved into the Federal Republic of Germany and so those medals seem ok to be given to a united Germany, but even so I can see reasons for just listing the GDR separately, but the USSR-Russia situation seems highly problematic. However, I am no expert in how sports medals awarding works, so could someone who is please advise? Thanks PRC 07 (talk) 23:57, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree Soviet Union should be seperated from Russia. Most of the other medal tables around Wikipedia separates them also. --Pelmeen10 (talk) 00:10, 6 January 2018 (UTC)

So many mistakes?

I checked some of the championships pages 1993, 1994, 1995, 1997 and the data didn't match up between events medalist and medal tables. I'm not sure which one was correct, but i went with the events one. I have no idea where to check them, can someone do that with all of the championships articles? Pelmeen10 (talk) 02:25, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

Multiple medalists

Are there any fencers (m/w) who medaled in all 3 disciplines (individual; if not any, team can be included). 213.149.62.160 (talk) 15:51, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

No women. They were only allowed foil until recently, and at that point specialization was the rule. Margherita Zalaffi won olympic medals in foil and epee, but did so on separate editions of the games. Arianna Errigo is one of the strongest women today in foil, and is also very strong in sabre, but the Italian federation doesn't allow her to compete in both weapons in the european and world championships.

Among men, Nedo Nadi won 5 gold medals in the Antwerp Olympics (1920). He didn't compete in the Epee individual event, maybe he'd have won a medal there, too. His brother Aldo Nadi won silver in the saber individual competition, and gold in all three teams. In those days there was no world championship though.

Currently, only among the veterans you can find some athletes doing all three weapons. Alexandar Anastasov for example at the 2017 world veteran championship was 6th in epee, gold in saber and 12th in foil. I'm sure he was at least once european champion in each weapon.

--Lou Crazy (talk) 10:20, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Medal count

I was checking the counts for the it.wiki version of this page, and total didn't seem to match, not even by taking into account the championships 1921-1936 (which were called "international championships" and were only open to European fencers).

Is there any official source? I couldn't find any. The best is https://web.archive.org/web/20111103082325/http://sports123.com/mt/fen-w.html which is sadly out of date.

I'm going to redo the calculations, I think.

---Lou Crazy (talk) 10:40, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure there are mistakes. And maybe 21-36 medals should be omitted if it was with a different name and only for european teams? Or is there a reason to sum them all up? Pelmeen10 (talk) 10:54, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Actually it would be best to account for 1921-1936 separately, IMO.

--Lou Crazy (talk) 16:16, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I saved the data in CSV format here: it:Discussione:Campionati_mondiali_di_scherma#Totale_del_medagliere

Here you can find it in wikitable format: it:Campionati_mondiali_di_scherma#Medagliere_campionati_mondiali.

As I said, the "International Championships" of 1921-1936 are counted separately. Here is a summary: it:Campionati_mondiali_di_scherma#Medagliere_Campionati_Internazionali

--Lou Crazy (talk) 10:56, 26 July 2019 (UTC)