Talk:Workers' Communist League of New Zealand

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 00:54, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that following the protests against the 1981 South Africa rugby union tour, the Workers Communist League of New Zealand began re-evaluating issues of gender and Māori self-determination? Source: Paul Spoonley (1988), Francisca de Haan (23 January 2023), J A Mangan; John Nauright (11 January 2013), Cybèle Locke (2012)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1930 FIFA World Cup Group 1

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 26 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Workers Communist League of New Zealand, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• Initial review. Nice start! New enough, long enough, well sourced, neutral. Sourced from books, so I did a spot check for close paraphrasing and it looks ok. QPQ is done. A couple of comments: 1) Could you please propose an ALT hook or two? This article is rich with attention-getting ideas and phrases, I think you could really grab people's attention somehow. (Current hook is super wordy and a bit confusing, although it definitely made me stop to try to work out what was going on.) 2) In the article, could you maybe add at least 1–2 sentences about the 1981 South Africa rugby union tour, for those readers who aren't familiar with what happened, and may choose not to click on the wikilink to read more? Cielquiparle (talk) 16:59, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
  • Soman, status report? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 22:07, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
    • I added the sentence "Opposition to rugby union exchanges with apartheid South Africa had organized in New Zealand since the 1960s, with the emergence of the Halt All Racist Tours movement." to the section in the article plus a see also template linking Rugby union and apartheid. --Soman (talk) 15:21, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
      • Cielquiparle, will you be continuing with this review? If so, can you please post an icon along with it to show where the nomination stands? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

@Soman: Thanks for adding the information. Do you have any ideas for additional hooks? And/or, can you think of a simpler way to state ALT0? (ALT0 to me is very hard to scan, and I'm not sure what "re-evaluate" means in that context.) Cielquiparle (talk) 16:49, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

How about ALT1, ... that during the protests against the 1981 South Africa rugby union tour New Zealand Prime Minister Robert Muldoon claimed the movement was led by the Workers Communist League? --Soman (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

@Soman: Sorry for the delay. I like your ALT1 hook but have been getting stuck because the source cited in the article doesn't exactly say that (even if it's true). Could we maybe change the ALT1 hook slightly to follow the source more closely (i.e., that Muldoon implied that the Workers Communist League was disrupting law and order by protesting the 1981 South Africa rugby union tour)? (I actually looked at a couple of the other sources and saw he never seemed to name them outright but was implying that they were one of the "subversives" at fault.) Cielquiparle (talk) 16:20, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

• How about ALT2 ... that the group that would come form the Workers Communist League of New Zealand avoided declaring themselves as a separate party for several years, hoping to win Chinese support first? --Soman (talk) 18:05, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

@Soman: I think ALT2 is ok (though FYI – I reworded "avoided to declared" to "avoided declaring" within your hook above). But I wanted to propose another hook as well:

• ALT3: ... that in 1981, New Zealand Prime Minister Robert Muldoon controversially published a list of "subversives", including many members of the Workers Communist League?
• ALT3a: ... that in 1981, Prime Minister Robert Muldoon controversially published a list of "subversives", including many members of the Workers Communist League of New Zealand?

What do you think of ALT3/3a? Cielquiparle (talk) 10:47, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

I would be ok with ALT3 or ALT3a. --Soman (talk) 13:49, 17 March 2023 (UTC)