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Historical Impact

Fascinating article, makes you realise that without Dai Woodham, railway preservation in the UK would be nowhere near as advanced as it is. Would anyone with more knowledge of the subject care to expand on the historical/social impacts of Barry Scrapyard? i.e. what would be different if the yard hadn't concentrated on the wagons first? For example are there any classes of locomotive preserved that wouldn't be had it not been for the Barry examples?

Also is the scrapyard still in operation? ColourSarge (talk) 09:35, 9 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto: There's a lack of dates, so it's hard to identify the timeline of the article. Ansbaradigeidfran (talk) 14:27, 14 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it fair to say that if Dai Woodham's company had continued with the scrapping of steam locomotives first then the railway preservation movement as it is today would be very different. Around 200 steam locomotives were rescued and many have been restored to working order, and many of those provide the main attraction at the many heritage railways around the country. If these hadn't been saved then we would only have had the National Collection and the few steam locomotives that were bought directly out of service or who survived in industrial use (for example with the NCB, and London Underground) to represent our steam railway heritage. I would guess that many heritage lines would be more reliant on diesel power to operate. It would be interesting to speculate, especially following the successful building from scratch of an A1 class pacific 'Tornado'- whether a lack of a source of locos from Woodhams' yard would have led to earlier efforts to recreate or design new steam locomotives.

ColourSarge also asked 'are there any classes of locomotive preserved that wouldn't be had it not been for the Barry examples?' to which the answer is an unequivocable 'YES!' - not least in the case of the prototype BR Class 8 pacific 71000 'Duke of Gloucester'. But there are other classes that wouldn't otherwise now be represented - the GW 42xx 2-8-0T and 72xx 2-8-2T (the largest tank engines to run in the UK), the SR 'Q' class 0-6-0 and 'N' class 2-6-0, the LMS Stanier Mogul, and BR 76xxx Mogul 2-6-0 are but a few examples.Andywebby (talk) 01:31, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Supplemental - The Bullied light pacifics (West Country and Battle of Britain classes) as rebuilt with Walschaerts valve gear and the air smoothed casing removed in the 1950s are further examples (10 survived) Andywebby (talk) 23:04, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A further thought - the supply of locos from the yard has enabled some projects to go ahead to recreate otherwise extinct locomotive classes. Two examples: GW Hall Class 'Maindy Hall' is being converted into a GW Saint Class loco 'Lady of Legend', and, as it lacks a tender, BR Standard Class 2 2-6-0 78059 is to be used in a project to recreate a Class 2 2-6-2 tank locomotive, no 84030 (the next available number in the original series). Andywebby (talk) 22:51, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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