Talk:Women Today

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by BorgQueen (talk) 11:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Women Today was the first programme aired by the Irish national broadcaster RTÉ to be produced almost entirely by women? Source: https://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/681-history-of-rte/705-rte-1970s/327129-sex-education-in-ireland/
- ALT1: ... that Women Today, the pioneering RTÉ Radio 1 programme, was conceptualized partly as a means of redress for underrepresented female RTÉ employees? Source: https://www.rte.ie/archives/exhibitions/681-history-of-rte/705-rte-1970s/327129-sex-education-in-ireland/
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Created by Mike Halterman (talk). Self-nominated at 15:57, 27 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Women Today; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article was nominated within 7 days of creation. Article is more than 1,500 words in prose. QPQ is done. Both hooks seem interesting and good. Earwig showed a 62.1% detection, making copyright violation a possibility, but most of it comes from quotations. It is advised you limit them. Second paragraph under "Impact of Women Today" shows no citations. Some wording is not neutral, i.e. "Women Today was the brainchild of Clare Duignan" feels WP:FLOWERY and could be better reworded into something like "Women Today was conceived by Clare Duignan". Another example is how the lead states that Women Today is a "pioneering Irish radio programme" when the word "pioneering" affects the neutrality of the statement. lullabying (talk) 04:42, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator hasn't edited since August 21 and did not respond to the above review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:36, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible References

The article "Tuned out? A Study of RTÉ radio 1 programmes Dear Frankie/Women Today and BBC 4’s Woman’s Hour" was published and then reprinted in Mark O'Brien's book "Medica Connections between Britain and Ireland". This is a link to a summary, someone might be able to ask the author for a copy of the paper [1]
This is a contemporary report on the start of the program, published in The Furrow [2].
I don't think people generally like thesis papers, unless they are published in a Journal, but to me they do help establish notability even if they aren't used as a reference. "Her Voice on Air: How Irish Radio Made Strides for Women's Rights" [3]
book: The Irish Paradox by Sean Moncrieff, seems like a short reference [4]
Also other obituaries, [5], [6], [7]

Denaar (talk) 22:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my gosh, thank you so much for the help! I will look into these sources this weekend. I really appreciate it! Mike H. Fierce! 08:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Going through the sources now. Was waylaid by a similar project from another country, Nome Mulher. Mike H. Fierce! 15:34, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]