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A fact from Wojtek (bear) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 June 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the bear Wojtek was an officially enlisted soldier of the Polish II Corps and a participant in the Battle of Monte Cassino?

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Syrian vs. Iranian vs. Persian Brown Bear

It looks like there's a minor edit issue going on with the species of bear with reversions from Syrian Brown Bear to Iranian Brown Bear to Persian Brown Bear. This hints at a typical Wikipedia culture war in the offing. In the interest of furthering the article, I am going to revert the article to what appears to be the last canonical version of the popular name of the species to Syrian Brown Bear. I suspect changing the contested name to "Iranian" or "Persian" is a misunderstanding between the popular name of the species in English, and the nationality of the bear (if bears, indeed, can said to have a "nationality."). The article on Syrian Brown Bear does mention Wojtek as being FROM Iran, but the popular name of the species isn't affected. For example, a Canadian Goose doesn't have to be actually from Canada (I speak from experience as we have several native non-migrating flocks of Canadian Geese near where I live in the US). So one wouldn't change the species of Canadian Goose to Mexican Goose if that bird happened to be born, and live, in Mexico.

I recommend that any future changes of Wojtek's species be discussed here so that we can come up with a consensus. Also, any experts on popular species names (in English - this is the English language Wikipedia) can also weigh in here. --Quartermaster (talk) 17:52, 5 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed the addition of the bear's "nationality" in the opening sentence. I still hold that an animal probably can't have a "nationality" but can easily accept the adjective "Iranian" as indicating "from Iran." The article currently (and previously) does mention that Wojtek was found in Iran. Does that make this initial use of "Iranian" redundant, or should the "found in Iran" somehow be incorporated into the opening sentence? --Quartermaster (talk) 14:37, 6 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

~~What sources say it was Syrian Brown Bear (U. arctos Syriacus) though? As opposed to a Eurasian Brown bear (U.arctos arctos). Kenosha Forever (talk) 18:58, 16 March 2021 (UTC)~~ [reply]

~~Ok, no response, I am taking it out.Kenosha Forever (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2021 (UTC)~~ blocked by Bradv as a sock of NoCal100[reply]

"From Warsaw to Rome: General Anders' Exiled Polish Army in the Second World War, Martin Williams" "One of the most popular recollections of the Polish Army in the East is that of Wojtek, the Syrian Brown Bear who became the .."

"Monte Cassino January-May 1944: The Legend of the Green Devils, Angelos Mansolas · 2017" "The most unusual soldier of the Battle of Monte Cassino, or any other battle for that matter, was a bear named 'Wojtek'. He was a Syrian brown bear found in Iran in April 1942 by the troops of the newly formed Polish II Corps" --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 06:11, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Thanks! Kenosha Forever (talk) 14:23, 24 March 2021 (UTC)~~ blocked by Bradv as a sock of NoCal100[reply]

Isn't Cigarette Harmful For Bears?

He Ate The Cigarettes? That's Sounds Weird Vibhuwastaken (talk) 08:42, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed 152.130.6.134 (talk) 16:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Triple parenthesis on name

May I know the reasoning behind giving the name triple brackets, when it's already in bold. 122.11.212.42 (talk) 02:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That was a bit of anti-Semitic vandalism and has been reverted. CodeTalker (talk) 03:00, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

He “mustered out”? - word choice

This reads weird. Like the bear left on its volition. It’s a bear. It will go with the cigarettes and honey Whup66 (talk) 15:59, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It says "he was mustered out" which reads as something that happened to him / was imposed on him by others. "he mustered out" would suggest he chose it. Also, mustering out at the end of a war is typically the choice of the army itself when it radically downsizes to peacetime requirements. (Hohum ^@) 16:15, 27 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]