Talk:Wine and Spirits Fair Dealing Act
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Bell's Brewery
[edit]If the law was passed in 1999, and off the books three years later in 2002, why is the Bell's Brewery pullout from 2006 mentioned as being caused by this law? --Stacecom (talk) 18:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
- Please reread the article as I think you're missing a key point. Also, read the cited source as that will probably answer any further questions you have. - Who is John Galt? ✉ 14:40, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
- (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 22:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
- Bell's should not be there, as it pulled distribution after a dispute with a beer wholesaler. The 1982 beer franchise law is what was at issue, and not the Wine and Spirits Fair Dealing Act, which as mentioned above, was already off the books. I'm removing it. (Snakesonaplane1988 (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2018 (UTC))
- I read the source and it says they are related. EnPassant (talk) 16:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- It's related only in similarity of the laws, and the Chicago Reader article makes it clear that they are different laws. The fact is they are/were two separate laws. Read the beer franchise laws here: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2384&ChapterID=67 . They don't mention wine or liquor. Bell's decision to pull their distribution, while interesting in and of itself, was NOT motivated by the Wirtz law. That law covered wine and liquor, not beer, and was already off the books when the Bell's event happened. I'm removing the discussion of Bell's, but I'll add reference to the beer franchise laws. Snakesonaplane1988 (talk) 02:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- "It's related .... in similarity of the laws", which is why it's pertinent to the article. It provides historical background for the newer, failed Wirtz law. The beer distributor named "National Wine and Spirits" was actually just the local name for Glaser's Distributors, which was purchased by Wirtz Corp in 2008 [1]. I added clarifications to the article. EnPassant (talk) 14:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- The auto franchise laws are similar too, should we devote a lengthy paragraph to them also? The purchase you mentioned happened after Bell's re-entered distribution in Illinois, so again it is irrelevant. Since you seem adamant about it, I'll leave it up. I'll consider making a new page for the beer franchise laws, and linking to it, or expanding the scope of this page to cover both, or someone else could do it. Would you object to that solution? (since again, the Wirtz act did not cover beer). Snakesonaplane1988 (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- "It's related .... in similarity of the laws", which is why it's pertinent to the article. It provides historical background for the newer, failed Wirtz law. The beer distributor named "National Wine and Spirits" was actually just the local name for Glaser's Distributors, which was purchased by Wirtz Corp in 2008 [1]. I added clarifications to the article. EnPassant (talk) 14:04, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's related only in similarity of the laws, and the Chicago Reader article makes it clear that they are different laws. The fact is they are/were two separate laws. Read the beer franchise laws here: http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2384&ChapterID=67 . They don't mention wine or liquor. Bell's decision to pull their distribution, while interesting in and of itself, was NOT motivated by the Wirtz law. That law covered wine and liquor, not beer, and was already off the books when the Bell's event happened. I'm removing the discussion of Bell's, but I'll add reference to the beer franchise laws. Snakesonaplane1988 (talk) 02:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- I read the source and it says they are related. EnPassant (talk) 16:36, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Bell's should not be there, as it pulled distribution after a dispute with a beer wholesaler. The 1982 beer franchise law is what was at issue, and not the Wine and Spirits Fair Dealing Act, which as mentioned above, was already off the books. I'm removing it. (Snakesonaplane1988 (talk) 18:42, 27 June 2018 (UTC))
- (Heroeswithmetaphors) talk 22:17, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
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