Talk:Windgap, County Kilkenny

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Sarah – just thought I'd explain my reversion at Windgap, Kilkenny. I moved the content there from Windgap a little while ago, because of the liklihood of confusion with other places called Windgap or Wind Gap, and also with the geographical feature itself. If someone was looking for information on one of those other meanings, they would be confused if taken to the Irish village (lovely as I'm sure it is). On the other hand, with the current arrangement (Windgap redirecting to Wind gap (disambiguation)), everyone can see clearly what the choices are and decide which they really want. It also puts all the several Wind(_)gap places on an equal and fair footing, which is the usual WP arrangement. Having said all that, I'm not sure now whether the geographical feature is best called Wind gap as now, or (by the same argument as for the village), something like Wind gap (geographical feature). What do you think? Richard New Forest (talk) 21:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My problem with the changes is that I don't agree with dabbing when the names are not the same. There is no other article called "Windgap" and I think there is a clear difference between the name and the geographical thing. Other places called Windgap (but not Wind Gap) need some sort of dab and in the absence of a prime location the first to have an article is valid if there are very few examples. Sarah777 (talk) 08:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, yes in fact there is another place called "Windgap": Windgap (Pittsburgh) – enough for a dab by itself. I do agree that there's no point in dabbing when the names are sufficiently different to avoid confusion – however, "Wind Gap" and "Windgap" are so extremely similar that they are bound to get confused, and so I can't really see how we can avoid a dab in this case. We can't expect people to know in advance which of these uses are one word and which are two – for example they might well want the Irish village and type "Wind Gap", or want the Pennsylvanian borough and type "Windgap". (To be honest, I'm already having trouble remembering which way round they are...)

Thinking further about the name of the geographical feature, I don't think we can disambiguate that solely by capitalisation, so I've changed its title as above.

I saw you'd changed Windgap, Kilkenny to Windgap, County Kilkenny – that looks sensible, and is what I'd have done myself if I'd been less ignorant of Irish county naming. I've changed the dab to match. Richard New Forest (talk) 12:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, the "X, County Y" is the standard format. Sarah777 (talk) 20:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi sarah, you removed the history section from Windgap article diff, why and what hoax; thanks Mrchris (talk) 09:49, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops - I assumed it was a hoax - it isn't? Really need inline refs for stuff like that - the reference linked back to the article so I assumed it was a hoax. Apologies if I'm wrong. Sarah777 (talk) 22:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Above discussion copied from User talk:Sarah777 Richard New Forest (talk) 13:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]