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ATTN: REGARDING STUDENT VANDALISM

This is the Assistant Principal Ms. Neureuter, and any further student vandalism will be met with severe punishment from within school. We have tech support monitoring this page each week. We will no longer tolerate nonsense entries and other garbage. Only teachers and administrators may edit this page. Thank you.

--Assistant Principal 16:16, 28 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, anyone may edit any page, permitted their edits are constructive. However, vandalism will be swiftly removed. So, yes, students may edit this page, granted their edits are constructive. --w p k t sfs 21:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, even in 2007, the students at this school were out of control. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.130.102 (talk) 20:14, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Class Rank

Talk about senior class rank is not very well-known by the editor's own admission, and is common to nearly every high school in the United States. Therefore, it's content is at best unnecessary, and at worst confusing and uninformative.

--James 00:47, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Principal?

I heard there will be a new principal next year.--Taida 03:13, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There Is a new principal

I go to this school, and I can tell you that there is a new principal, Mr. Tubbs (Robert I believe is his name) so I changed the page. There is also another assistant principal, Mrs. Lorraine Redlinski.

Constitution Dispute section

Wikipedia is not the place for original research, that is to say, Wikipedia is not the place to publish your own opinions, experiences, or arguments. Please refrain from re-adding this section unless you can find a verifiable source. Thanks! Dukemmm (talk) 03:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified Claims

This article contains a large number of unverified claims about various scholastic and extracurricular achievements attributed to students at the school, many of which have had "citation needed" labels for over 2 years. Unless someone can provide links or citations, such claims should be removed. If there is no disagreement, I will do so in one week.Sincizzil (talk) 23:16, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the text mentioned above. I also added a "citation needed" tag to the bit about the stage; not because I believe it to be untrue, but because I'm positive there's at least one newspaper article (in The Buffalo News) that talks about it being unique amongst U.S. high schools at the time it was built. I'm gonna look for that article and see about sourcing the claim.

Also, the article is looking a lot cleaner than it used to; perhaps we could remove the "multiple issues" heading at the top? RolandTheHeadlessThompsonGunner (talk) 19:01, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The entry in extra curricular activities that discusses the school orchestra is at unverified and trivial. If no one objects and provides a citation, I will remove the entry in a month. Sincizzil (talk) 05:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i really think this may be one of the worst school in New York Your principle has no idea what she is doing —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.29.6.2 (talk) 14:26, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Suicides

I added one long sentence and several cites about a breaking story on suicides at the school. Bearian (talk) 00:54, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And misspelled "September" 66 times in an (unnecessarily long) list of cites. But really, why was the page protected? The reason given was "Persistent vandalism: Editing by the HS Principal in violation of WP:COI"; however, I see no sign of "Editing by the HS Principal", and the last vandalism was more than 18 hours old. --Lambiam 10:29, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As requested by two other editors, I changed it from full protection for 1 day, to semi-protection for six hours, which reduced the time by over twelve hours. As a rule, we limit the time for protection to the bare minimum needed, which I think was needed here. If anyone ever has any concern with any of my actions as a sysop or editor, I have always been willing to listen and compromise. The typos were a simple cut-and-paste error; I never said my typing was perfect. Bearian (talk) 19:58, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, I rarely have seen too many citations; the more controversial the subject, the more citations are needed. I removed one duplicate citation. If you click on the "history" and the talk page, you will see the name of the current principal at both places. Bearian (talk) 20:08, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see these edits, which appear to be impersonation (I doubt the principal would misspell her own name that badly) and are over four years old. Hardly an urgent reason for page protection now. --Lambiam 11:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am removing this section. While the students did indeed commit suicide I don't see anything to connect the actual suicides to this school. In the case of Chearmonte, there is nothing to tie the suicide to the school at all. In the case of Rodemeyer, the article Suicide of Jamey Rodemeyer indicates there was teasing and bullying at the Middle School, but nothing to indicate anything at the High School per se. Based on this, I would say it could be called a tragic coincidence that two high school students killed themselves, but perhaps not that unusual for American High Schools.

Rodemeyer does warrant inclusion as a "Notable person" in the school. I will take care of that in a moment.

If anyone can find references that tie the suicides to the school, (perhaps a pattern of bullying, if one exists?), please feel free to restore and expand this section.--Arg342 (talk) 18:46, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to revert this. The section you removed did actually talk specifically about events at the High School, i.e. the posthumous bullying, which was reported in huge numbers of reliable sources (some of which were cited in the removed section). Also, a number of the sources mention that the difference between the bullying at the high school and that at the middle school was that Rodemeyer stopped talking about it to his parents when he moved to high school.

Incidentally, the person himself is not notable by Wikipedia's standards (his death was). --Demiurge1000 (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2010 or 2011

The sources seem to say Rodemeyer killed himself in 2011. But the article currently says he was the second of two students to kill themselves in 2010. So which is it;

One student in 2010, and Rodemeyer in 2011, or,
Rodemeyer and the other student both in 2011 (and 2010 is just a typo), or,
Two students killed themselves in 2010, and then Rodemeyer was a third, in 2011. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 14:01, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jamey Rodemeyer was found dead last Sunday morning, September 18, 2011.[1] Gordon Joseph "Joe" Chearmonte died February 23, 2010.[2] I saw no reliable sources that attribute the latter's death to bullying. --Lambiam 16:50, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, thanks - I had read too quickly, and missed that it said "since 2010". Yes it might need some tweaks regarding the implications about the causes of the first suicide. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:58, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

as for the main article content

The description of how the various classes organize their course materials seems really excessive detail. Normally t he most we mention in that direction is what subjects there are PA classes in--in addition to anything that may have won a prize of national or state importance. Acting under WP:BRD, I'm removing some of it. DGG ( talk ) 18:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go right ahead. Bearian (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]