Talk:William Trench, 5th Earl of Clancarty/GA2
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Reviewer: Amitchell125 (talk · contribs) 18:37, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Happy to review the article.
Review comments
[edit]Initial comments
[edit]There are comments from the previous GA review that have not been addressed, and which can cause this nomination to be failed quickly. The comments are:
- "nobleman from the Dutch nobility," nobleman from nobility? Repetitive.
- Lead feels like it could be expanded to a couple more sentences.
- "He was born..." normally biographies re-iterate the name of the subject in the opening sentence of the first para of the main body of the article.
- Background seems to be in the wrong place for me.
- "The story of the early relationship..." unref.
Please address these comments. Amitchell125 (talk) 09:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Lead section/ infobox
[edit]- This a relatively short article, and I’m not convinced it needs an infobox. Thoughts?
- Link Irish peer (Peerage of Ireland); affidavit; adultery.
- A photograph of William Frederick Le Poer Trench – is the caption actually needed?
- The lead section needs to be expanded so as to make it a proper summary of the text in the article (mentioned in GA1).
1 Background
[edit]- Link diplomat
- a prominent member – ‘a member’? (see MOS:PUFFERY)
2 Early life
[edit]- Link second lieutenant.
3 1889–1891 and the cause célèbre
[edit]- Link burlesque; impresario .
- , who strongly objected to the marriage, - consider using dashes instead of commas.
4 Later life
[edit]- Link vault (Burial vault (tomb)).
- Trench had also served – ‘Trench served’?
- He went bankrupt in 1910, dying in 1929. These facts sound connected here, if they are not, they need to be in separate sentences.
- The image of the cemetery adds nothing to the article imo, and also causes an issue with sandwiching. I would leave it out.
5 Family
[edit]- Link music hall.
7 References
[edit]- Link Charles Mosley (Charles Mosley (genealogist)); Sheffield Daily Telegraph (Sheffield Telegraph).
- The Role of the peerage (Ref2) – is the quote needed?
- Sheffield DT (Ref12) has no access date, and needs a subscription needed tag.
- Cite the Wikisource (Ref4) correctly using the {{cite wikisource|chapter=Clancarty, Earl of|wslink=Thom's Irish Who's Who|plaintitle=Thom's Irish Who's Who|last=|first=|year=|publisher=|page=|wspage=|scan=}}.
More to follow. Amitchell125 (talk) 10:58, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Other comments
[edit]Additional sources to consider using:
- Images: https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp104073/william-frederick-le-poer-trench-5th-earl-of-clancarty and https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/portrait-list.php?search=sp&sText=Belle+Bilton are available from the National Portrait Gallery, London; http://lafayette.org.uk/cla7047.html from the Lafayette archives
- https://www.thepeerage.com/p5348.htm provides information about his family, including his mother
- {{commons}} could be added
- http://places.galwaylibrary.ie/history/chapter228.html provides details of his final illness.
- This link had additional information to add about the earl's financial problems.
On hold
[edit]I'm putting the article on hold for a week until 11 June to allow time for the issues raised to be addressed. Regards, Amitchell125 (talk) 16:10, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Fail
[edit]The article has had to be failed due to a lack of response by the nominator. Amitchell125 (talk) 19:54, 11 June 2022 (UTC)