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Recommendations for edits in this article ...

I came across several references to Milnor in other articles and found most of the links weren't there... The breadth of this man's experience in 19th century civil engineering is amazing! I will be working on reformatting the article to the biography guidelines as well as fixing the citation issues... Cheers ..

Risk Engineer (talk) 14:20, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering if there was a reason the information in this article doesn't seem to have a clear source? Ye348 (talk) 04:00, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the subsections from the "Works" section is somewhat underrepresented - that is, there is not much information about Roberts' involvement in the Office of Ohio River Improvement or the Eads Bridge Construction. (hrk269 Hrk269 (talk) 15:23, 5 February 2018 (UTC))[reply]

There is a lack of detail about the projects that Roberts has worked on, and his contribution to them. The article presents his career as just a timeline of events, rather than an in depth explanation of Roberts involvement. Ajain1458 (talk) 16:33, 5 February 2018 (UTC)Ajain1458[reply]

There is some basic background about Roberts. It is well organized as bullet points! There is an error when I tried to click on the link, "Chronology of Command:..." — HKK123 (talk) 17:18, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Here is an interesting link that will take one to a Map of the Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad and connecting lines. This document would complement the section of this article summarizing the period of William Milnor Roberts' career from 1834-1840 where he was in charge of the extensions of various railroads. Such documents provide readers with an accurate representation of his contributions to the railroad industry. ^[1] Minmount (talk) 20:44, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It might be more effective to show how important Roberts was for American civil engineering by more extensively explaining his attributed works. Here's a book that I found containing some additional accounts for his work. ^[2] Bryankwiat (talk) 21:43, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Since William Milnor Roberts has been quite significant, in there must been some up and down throughout his career. In addition, it would be nice have some image attachment of the work he involved^[3]. GjiangWiki (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that it is good to know more about William Milnor Roberts through the work he has done. Roberts has involved in the construction of the Eads Bridge. I found an article in the STRUCTURE magazine talking about the design of Eads Bridge. ^[4] — HKK123 (talk) 16:08, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Q. Check a few citations. Do the links work? Does the link source support the claim in the article. Ans. The last two URLs in the reference do not work which make the whole citations obsolete. This also spreads doubt on all the claims made in the article as the referenced URLs do not work. Bthapacr7 (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2018 (UTC) (This doesn't answer the assignment question ... Risk Engineer (talk) 17:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC) )[reply]

I think his career section should have more details and the timeline outline doesn't seem too respectful. Just listing his key moments throughout the years just doesn't give him all the respect he deserves as a prominent civil engineer. "1865: he contracted to build Don Pedro Segundo, Brazil. In 1866, he proposed improvements to the Mississippi River at Keokuk, Iowa." Grammatical error, (he) should be capitalized (He). I would also include the following quotation from his 1882 obituary,1882 Obituary " . . was one of the oldest and most active members of the engineering profession in the United States. He was of Quaker descent, and was born in the City of Philadelphia on the 12th of February, 1810. . ."Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).Tatman, Sandra. "Roberts, William Milnor (1812 - 1881)". Philadelphia Buildings. Retrieved Feb. 26, 2018. {{cite web}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help)

Mci2014 (talk) 03:03, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Recommended citation and edits to the career timeline. He started working with the canals in 1825 and the railroads in 1835 According to the "Archives West" an institution for archival and manuscript materials.

Archives West: William Milnor Roberts Papers, 1828-1959

A possible typo? It says his first wife died in 1957, this would mean she lived to be over 120 years old...?

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I would recommend that the sources stated be utilized better. The first source talks about William Milnor Roberts early education but this is not mentioned in the article at all. I imagine this would be an appropriate thing to add.Tochukwu.uyanne (talk) 05:16, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added sub-section "Education"Tochukwu.uyanne (talk) 05:39, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to suggest that adding the following information about Mr Roberts' education will help fill out the content gap in the article about his education:

Mr. Roberts attended private schools in Pennsylvania and during the time Robert Milnor was in school no civil engineering schools had been established yet. For that reason he was focusing on mathematics and he also took an architectural drawing at a school established by the Franklin Institute.

American Philosophical Society. " An Orbituary notice of William Milnor Robert", Proceedings of American Philosophical Society, January 1882. Retrieved on 2 March 2018.</ref> -Emmy0286 (talk) 03:08, 3 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The link in the main article does not exist, i would suggest the following recommendation. 1834 to 1840: In charge of extensions of Pennsylvania Canals ; Bellefontaine and Indiana, Allegheny Valley, Atlantic and Mississippi, and Iron Mountain. camie22 (talk) 22:00, 4 March 2018 (UTC) the following edit was made to the career section of the article He served as vice-president of the American Society of Civil Engineers in 1876 and president in 1878. " An Orbituary notice of William Milnor Robert", Proceedings of American Philosophical Society, January 1882. Retrieved on 4 March 2018.</ref> camie22 (talk)05:00, 5 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent work everyone! .. Thanks ... Risk Engineer (talk) 22:27, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Correct his name under the education topic. Also, elaborate on the top private schools he attended. MarquisJohnHall (talk) 23:42, 28 April 2018 (UTC)MarquisJohnHall[reply]

References

^ Map of the Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad and connecting lines. Roberts, W. Milnor (William Milnor), 1810-1881, Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad Company. Pittsburgh, 1852. Library of Congress, https://www.loc.gov/item/98688598/
^ Senkewicz, Robert M.. Road to War : The 1871 Yellowstone Surveys, edited by M. John Lubetkin, University of Oklahoma Press, 2016. ProQuest Ebook Central, https://ebookcentral-proquest-com.proxy.library.nyu.edu/lib/nyulibrary-ebooks/detail.action?docID=4734155.
^ “Eads Bridge.” Stlouis-Mo.gov, www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/departments/planning/cultural-resources/city-landmarks/Eads-Bridge.cfm.
^ Griggs, Frank, Eads Bridge at St.Louis, STRUCTURE magazine, http://www.structuremag.org/?p=12383.

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The article has many content gaps.We did not get a lot of information about Milnor's early life, did he have siblings?where did he attend school, university? etc.More information could have been added on Milnor's career, instead of just listing the work he has done a description work he did, a full description of his work would have been better.--Emmy0286 (talk) 16:34, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The format of the career section should be revised. Also more information should be added to the "early life and career section" as it is void of the details of his early life. Beski001 (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added a couple of sentences to the section "Early life and Career". Beski001 (talk) 22:45, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If needed, you can add information from this entry: Roberts, W. Milnor. “An Obituary Notice of William Milnor Roberts.” Proceedings of the American Philosophical Society, vol. 20, no. 111, 1882, pp. 199–202.MarquisJohnHall (talk) 01:18, 29 April 2018 (UTC)MarquisJohnHall[reply]

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The article didn't talk enough about William Milnor Roberts work. Many of the links were not working and a lot of information didn't have neither citations nor sources next to it.Yasminekhiri (talk) 01:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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- Everything in the article is the relevant to the topic, but there is a lack of detailed information on the projects Roberts worked on during his career.

- I noticed that there are insufficient citations. Wikipedia`s evaluation also has deemed the sources unclear, as well as they are insufficient citations.

- The citations also do not support the information provided in the article. Nve98 (talk) 04:44, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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The information presented in the article is germane to the topic. However, there are insufficient citations and of the few that are there, some are not working. Kukismss (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Are there any more relevant links that can be provided in order to further learn more about William Milnor Roberts?

RichRome (talk) 23:47, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I respect the work of Mr. Minor and all his dedication to the development of civil engineering in the United States. But my concern is like with the rest of civil engineers that are in America, are they trying to make their work worldwide or they just want to keep their legacy nationwide. Sidinho26 (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2019 (UTC)Sidinho26Sidinho26 (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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While the article had a lot of information, there were not many details on Roberts' major contributions to works. Also, many of the citations did not work. I think if his works were explained more that this would be a great article. Glenngrace7 (talk) 17:49, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Map of the Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad and connecting lines. Roberts, W. Milnor (William Milnor), 1810-1881, Bellefontaine and Indiana Railroad Company. Pittsburgh, 1852. Library of Congress, https://www.loc.gov/item/98688598/

[2] Senkewicz, Robert M.. Road to War : The 1871 Yellowstone Surveys, edited by M. John Lubetkin, University of Oklahoma Press, 2016. ProQuest Ebook Central, https://ebookcentral-proquest-com.proxy.library.nyu.edu/lib/nyulibrary-ebooks/detail.action?docID=4734155.

[3] “Eads Bridge.” Stlouis-Mo.gov, www.stlouis-mo.gov/government/departments/planning/cultural-resources/city-landmarks/Eads-Bridge.cfm.

[4] Griggs, Frank, Eads Bridge at St.Louis, STRUCTURE magazine, http://www.structuremag.org/?p=12383.

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